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Author Topic:   Questions for Bob Greenberger
TheRogueLegionnaire
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posted January 28, 2003 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheRogueLegionnaire        Reply w/Quote
Since the Legion Archives is arguably the Archives highest seller (based on number of volumes published, I don't have actual sales data) and since the Legion stories in question fall under the "Superman Family" why didn't DC try to capitalize by publishing more lines from the Silver Age "Superman Family, say 5 years ago?

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posted January 28, 2003 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vze2        Reply w/Quote
You get enough questions, so I'm just going to make a suggestion.

In All-Star 11's intro, or maybe an afterword, discuss the change to All-Star Western. Make sure the writer discusses the great artists who worked on this title. Then, follow this volume with All-Star Western 1.

This volume could be used as an experiment for both westerns and anthologies. If this does well, you could then try All-American. If All-Star is only moderately successful, you could try Johnny Thunder next without duplicating any stories. If All-American wasn't succesful, you could still jump to Johnny Thunder without too much overlap. People who bought All-American will probably prefer any western to none, and those who didn't won't care about the duplication.

Thanks for reading.

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Steve Overton
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posted January 28, 2003 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Overton   Click Here to Email Steve Overton        Reply w/Quote
WHAT !? 2004!?
Bob, i hope that you were being funny !

The wait for JL/Avengers is getting a bit excessive now
(I'm going to ask Kurt if he's handed in that final script yet)

Steve O

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XXXenophile
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posted January 28, 2003 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XXXenophile   Click Here to Email XXXenophile        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Overton:
WHAT !? 2004!?
Bob, i hope that you were being funny !

The wait for JL/Avengers is getting a bit excessive now
(I'm going to ask Kurt if he's handed in that final script yet)

Steve O


I'm hoping he means 2004 for the eventual collected edition.

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Steven Utley
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posted January 28, 2003 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven Utley        Reply w/Quote
Bob, could you tell us the contents of the assembled but unpublished GREATEST 1960s STORIES EVER TOLD? And do you suppose that there's the least little chance the thing will ever see the light of day?

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Mike Falcon
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posted January 29, 2003 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Falcon   Click Here to Email Mike Falcon        Reply w/Quote
Bob, what's your favorite color and will the Greatest Golden Age Stories Ever Told be published as a TPB?

Thanks!

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jlavengers
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posted January 29, 2003 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jlavengers   Click Here to Email jlavengers        Reply w/Quote
Bob, Avengers/JLA 2004, you've got to be joking, have you talked to Dan Raspler, is this true?

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vze2
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posted January 29, 2003 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vze2        Reply w/Quote
I'm not hurt, but I'm a little suprised that none of the Jimmy fans reacted to my post a few pages back. The first quote was snuck into a long response and appears to have gone unnoticed by most people. If you didn't see my post, here it is again:

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Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
Since we've never considered any of the Fourth World material for Archives, we've never given the editorial approach any consideration.

quote:
Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
Should JO be in color and should it sell well, yes, it might encourage us to consider the rest of the Fourth World stuff.

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Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
Well I can't find Bob's original statement, but I swear he said that the response to the graytone trades was so bad that DC was reluctant to try again.

So Jimmy's not an Archive.

I can't see them planning a collection like the Neal Adams books without committing to all four titles, so I don't think this will be in hardcover either.

It seems to me that DC's on the fence about the color issue.

If demand for Jimmy is significantly higher than demand for the graytones, then it makes sense for Jimmy to be in color. The graytone buyers will probably buy a color Jimmy. The new fans will want matching color volumes, and the old fans might upgrade as well.

If demand for Jimmy is low (slightly higher than sales for the graytones), then it makes sense for Jimmy to be gray. It's cheaper to produce, it completes a set, and it allows DC to cheaply bring the other titles back in print for the few new readers who need them.

Personally, I think Jimmy will be a color TPB.

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James Friel
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posted January 29, 2003 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
I agree with your logic, but I think Jimmy will be a color hardcover (the restoration expense making color paperbacks expensive anyway), and that if it sells well it will be the first of a non-archive Kirby Fourth World set similar to the Adams Batmans.

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GDL
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posted January 29, 2003 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GDL        Reply w/Quote
I agree to please request that Jimmy Olsen by Kirby be in color.

Some of these questions to Bob are verging on Pythonism:

"What!! Is the wingspan of a swallow???"

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dnewton
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posted January 29, 2003 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dnewton        Reply w/Quote
Bob:
quote:
Day of Judgment has been considered for collection but other stuff keeps getting picked ahead of it.

What other big crossovers besides Day of Judgement are in the planning stages that haven't been done yet?

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Osgood Peabody
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posted January 29, 2003 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Osgood Peabody        Reply w/Quote
Bob - could you clarify the release date on the Dynamic Duo Archive? Since it was advance-solicited, it doesn't show up in the Previews. There seems to be conflicting info. about either the 5th or 12th.

Thanks.

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Bob Greenberger
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posted January 29, 2003 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Greenberger   Click Here to Email Bob Greenberger        Reply w/Quote
Interestingly, we've launched so many series that picking the banner color is becoming a challenge. I wound up helping pick the Challs' color last week. Since the color has to work with the art on the cover, you want a color that works in contrast to the characters. In the Chall's case, they had those puprle-gray outfits so we went with a gold, but it had to be a gold dissimilar to GA Flash, New Teen Titans and Atom. Sheesh.

Give or take a volume, I had Superman in Action pegged at 14, Superman at 21, Dark Knight at 21 and Batman at 17, but economics will ultimately affect page counts as the years roll on.

Before we even think of collecting the search for Sindella, I vote for collecting the search for Zatara, a much cooler event.

Look, this isn't necessarily the place for this debate but George isn't done with JLA/A. And he's back on his CrossGen monthly assignment. He's just got nights and weekends to work on JLA/A and with what he has left, my gut says it'll be 2004. Miracles do happen, but trust me, it'll be worth waiting for.

I have long since passed on my notes for Greatest 1960s Stories Ever Told to successors and they seem to have vanished in the ether.

My favorite color is some shade of green.

We're not planning a softcover for Greatest Golden Age Stories Ever Told. Sorry.

OK, OK, so much for teasing you guys. Yes, Jimmy Olsen will be in color.

Right now we have no crossovers scheduled for collection so fans of Millennium, Invason!, Bloodlines, Armageddon 2001, Day of Judgment, et. al. will just have to be patient.

Dynamic Duo is on schedule for 2/12. I misspoke a few pages back.

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DStepp
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posted January 29, 2003 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DStepp   Click Here to Email DStepp        Reply w/Quote
I may have missed something but have we concluded that JO is an Archive? If so, we seem a little light on Gold this year

Silver Gold

Aquaman Spectre
Duo All-Star
Challs Plas?
JLA
Legion
JO?

The end of the year must be gold heavy since Spectre is the only Gold we have seen announced for the first of the year. Of course, we have had lop sided Gold years so I suppose we could be due.

D.

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davidbstewart
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posted January 29, 2003 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidbstewart   Click Here to Email davidbstewart        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DStepp:
I may have missed something but have we concluded that JO is an Archive

JO won't be an archive (Bob G indicated that in an earlier post if I'm not mistaken). It is beginning with the Kirby issues.

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Michael Bise
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posted January 29, 2003 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Bise   Click Here to Email Michael Bise        Reply w/Quote
I emailed Bob and he graciously responded: Let's not get our hopes up for an Englehart JLA TPB.

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Cliffy Mark II
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posted January 29, 2003 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cliffy Mark II        Reply w/Quote
Bob--

This isn't about archives specifically, but in his CBR column posted today, Steven Grant makes mention of the decision by AOL/TW to try to sell off the books division, which I understand distributes DC archives and other collections to book stores:

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The big if for DC is what will happen to their bookstore trade paperback business, currently distributed by Warner Books and a solid #3 in that market.... If Warner Books... discards DC as a client when (if!) they change ownership, at minimum it’ll cause a hiccup in what’s probably DC’s most profitable branch. Certainly DC will easily be able to distribute through Diamond, but they’ll be just one of dozens of publishers generating graphic novels there... and the jury’s still out on the dimensions of Diamond’s reach into bookstores.

Any comments? Do you see this as a dangerous scenario? Are you worried about the effects on DC's distribution?

Thanks,
--Cliffy

P.S. The whole column is available at www.cbr.cc -- click on Permanent Damage.

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James Friel
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posted January 29, 2003 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cliffy Mark II:
Bob--

...decision by AOL/TW to try to sell off the books division, which I understand distributes DC archives and other collections to book stores:

Any comments? Do you see this as a dangerous scenario? Are you worried about the effects on DC's distribution?


Many publishers distribute the products of other, competing publishers to the book trade: the German company that owns St.Martin's Press also distributes Henry Holt, Farrar,Strauss and Wizards of the Coast, for instance. Perhaps more to the point, Warner for many years has handled distribution for Disney's publishing arm. Go figure.
There doesn't seem to be any favoritism or decreased effeciency; it seems to me that given the indifferent record that Warner seems to have with regard to getting DC product into bookstores at a time close to Diamond's dates, there might even be an improvement.

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stoter1
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posted January 29, 2003 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stoter1        Reply w/Quote
Hey Bob,

It seems that in the last few years DC has made a commitment to the Joe Kubert Library. When can we expect for Kubert material? Are there any plans currently in store for a Sgt Rock v 2 archive? I understand that volume 1 did quite well. alos when will Tor v 2 be coming out? I have been reading a lot about Rock lately, with Kubert working on a new HC with Azzarello. Can we expect more Kubert trades and HC to support the new HC. If so, when. Finally, had DC seriously explored the archive series by genre. what i mean by that is does DC approach the archives on a one by one basis, or does DC want to fill a particular need for a genere. When Dc released Enemy Ace, was it because DC felt that there was a huge demand for Enemy Ace per se, or did DC feel that there was a need for War archives. Any current plans for a Western Archive? Also, has Dc given any serious consideration to producing trades ala Forge and Edge that are quick turnarounds of their monthlies or perhaps even bringing back the old digests? Thanks

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stoter1
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posted January 29, 2003 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stoter1        Reply w/Quote
In my last post Bob, I meant Tor V 3. Thanks

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posted January 29, 2003 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
Hey stoter, in the case of sci-fi genre, DC has made it clear that when the dam breaks on it, we'll see more than just Adam Strange. They said (rather explicitly as I recall) that once they broached sci-fi, we'd see not only Adam Strange but Atomic Knights and perhaps one other title. This is a quote from the last year's San Diego con.

Knowing this is true, we can look back at the Blackhawk/Sgt. Rock/Enemy Ace trifecta and see that same mechanism was in place. All three of those books were successes, I think. Fans of the military genre were served notice that their needs were going to be taken care of, and they got a lot in a short amount of time, and they bought it all. I think it's a sound publishing strategy, and it seems to work.

Now let's get us some of that sci-fi!

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stoter1
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posted January 29, 2003 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stoter1        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dylanfan:
Hey stoter, in the case of sci-fi genre, DC has made it clear that when the dam breaks on it, we'll see more than just Adam Strange. They said (rather explicitly as I recall) that once they broached sci-fi, we'd see not only Adam Strange but Atomic Knights and perhaps one other title. This is a quote from the last year's San Diego con.

Knowing this is true, we can look back at the Blackhawk/Sgt. Rock/Enemy Ace trifecta and see that same mechanism was in place. All three of those books were successes, I think. Fans of the military genre were served notice that their needs were going to be taken care of, and they got a lot in a short amount of time, and they bought it all. I think it's a sound publishing strategy, and it seems to work.

Now let's get us some of that sci-fi!


I second the request for sci-fi and would buy adam starnge in a minute. Thanks for the quote from the con...

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posted January 29, 2003 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jfire   Click Here to Email Jfire        Reply w/Quote
Back to the Jimmy Olsen collection: Is there any plan--is it even possible--to reinstate the original "Superman faces," which were pasted over with rendering more in-line with DC's house style on the character?

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Not My Real Name
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posted January 29, 2003 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Not My Real Name   Click Here to Email Not My Real Name        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
Right now we have no crossovers scheduled for collection so fans of Millennium, Invason!, Bloodlines, Armageddon 2001, Day of Judgment, et. al. will just have to be patient.


This pre-empts my question on JLApe...

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Cliffy Mark II
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posted January 29, 2003 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cliffy Mark II        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James Friel:
Many publishers distribute the products of other, competing publishers to the book trade

Agreed. But one of the asides in Grant's original column which I elided in my quote noted that Warner Books hasn't ever seemed to be too happy with having to distribute DC books. Once they don't "have" to because of common ownership, will they be willing to at all? And if not, will DC be in a subordinate position w/r/t Diamond's books arm (if that's the way DC goes) as a late adopter when compared with Marvel or others who use Diamond ditribution already?

--Cliffy

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