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Corrosive Kid
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posted October 24, 2002 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Corrosive Kid        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
Dale handles those pesky Archives and makes intro choices based on a vareity of criteria. DC makes an effort to involve living participants where practical.

So does that mean that Jim Shooter will be writing the intro to the next Legion archives?

(Just a little inside joke for Legion fans).

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Marty Raap
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posted October 24, 2002 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Raap        Reply w/Quote
So "DC makes an effort to involve living participants where practicable"? This smacks of discrimination against the life-impaired (i.e., "life-ism"). When will we as a society finally include dead people fully in our activities instead of just shoving them into the ground like second-class citizens? When will we realize that they, too, had feelings once? Of course, I do realize there are problems with commissioning introductions from the dead . . . ironically, they are REALLY bad about meeting their deadlines . . . . but they work cheap!

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James Friel
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posted October 24, 2002 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Marty Raap:
...Of course, I do realize there are problems with commissioning introductions from the dead . . . ironically, they are REALLY bad about meeting their deadlines . . . . but they work cheap!

Is this simply another instance of unfavorable stereotyping?
Let me remind you that the deceased are not covered by minimum wage laws, by OSHA, or indeed by any labor legislation, even the most rudimentary.
And consider the conditions in which most of them would have to work! Only the most fortunate, residing in relatively spacious mausolea, would have much chance of meeting a deadline or turning in acceptable material.

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Marty Raap
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posted October 24, 2002 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Raap        Reply w/Quote
Very true, James . . . could I be guilty of practicing life-ism myself? I guess I need to take a long, hard look in the mirror . . . .

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NecessaryImpurity
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posted October 24, 2002 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NecessaryImpurity        Reply w/Quote
It's about time people woke up to the issues facing Necro-Americans! We all treat them shabbily, and it's shameful. My own father is a Necro-American, and since this fact became obvious, no one will invite him to family gatherings anymore. Shameful!

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Old Dude
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posted October 24, 2002 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Old Dude   Click Here to Email Old Dude        Reply w/Quote
Dead authors these days just don't have the work ethic like in the old days.

Remember all the new TV series that Gene Roddenberry created, well into the next decade after he died.

Even Jacquelin Susann (sp) pumped out at least three books post-mortem.

My personal hero was Kenneth Robeson, who penned a Doc Savage novel about 10 or 15 years ago, and he's been beyond the veil for decades.

Nope they don't make 'em like they used to. I mean, has Mark Gruenwald written anything since they mixed his ashes in with the Squadron Supreme TPB?

Heck no!

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BillNolan
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posted October 24, 2002 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BillNolan   Click Here to Email BillNolan        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NecessaryImpurity:
My own father is a Necro-American, and since this fact became obvious, no one will invite him to family gatherings anymore. Shameful!

I bet he still gets junk mail. America's mass mailers have never been known to discriminate against the life-impaired.

- Bill

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Old Dude
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posted October 24, 2002 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Old Dude   Click Here to Email Old Dude        Reply w/Quote
My mother joined The Choir Invisible almost three years ago, and seriously, we STILL get mail for her.

I bet Bob Greenberger is glad he took time from his busy day to check in on these posts.

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Marty Raap
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posted October 25, 2002 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Raap        Reply w/Quote
I'm glad to see others are taking up the cause. After all, if you prick the dead, do they not bleed? Well, OK, most of them don't, but you take the point.

I'm sure there's an Archive-related question for Bob Greenberger in here somewhere. I've got it -- perhaps the upcoming Spectre Archive is DC's way of reaching out to the neglected group of life-impaired? I started to say "minority group," but you can't really call them a minority group, can you? DC could really be on to something here -- if even a small percentage of dead people buy the Spectre Archive, that sucker will sell through the roof!

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Scott Nichols
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posted October 25, 2002 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Nichols   Click Here to Email Scott Nichols        Reply w/Quote
The Silent Majority seems a better description.

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James Friel
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posted October 25, 2002 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
So, Bob:
In our endless nattering here, we've seemingly begun to simply assume that DC is going to expand DCU Archive production from the current level of about 12 per year to something between 16 and 18 per year over the next few years, not counting the other lines such as Spirit and THUNDER Agents.
It seems to be the only way of reconciling the existence of ever larger numbers of archive series with continuing existing ones on anything like a regular schedule.

Can you address that?

I guess the question comes in two parts:
Does DC think it's a good idea in market terms?
Does the producrion capacity exist?

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Lee Semmens
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posted October 25, 2002 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lee Semmens        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Marty Raap:
So "DC makes an effort to involve living participants where practicable"? This smacks of discrimination against the life-impaired (i.e., "life-ism"). When will we as a society finally include dead people fully in our activities instead of just shoving them into the ground like second-class citizens? When will we realize that they, too, had feelings once? Of course, I do realize there are problems with commissioning introductions from the dead . . . ironically, they are REALLY bad about meeting their deadlines . . . . but they work cheap!

They could always write their introductions via a medium.

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fbalkin
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posted October 25, 2002 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fbalkin   Click Here to Email fbalkin        Reply w/Quote
Bob - saw your note in Bob Rozakis' column at Silverbulletcomicbooks.com re why DC isn't doing its own version of "ESSENTIALS." While I understand the desire to reprint color comics in color, how's about at least doing paperback editions of the Archives? For example, I'm interested in the Black Canary archives, especially the O'Neill/Alex Toth stories, but $50 is a lot of money....

- Frank Balkin

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Peter Svensson
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posted October 25, 2002 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter Svensson   Click Here to Email Peter Svensson        Reply w/Quote
From what I understand, the main reason the Archives cost so much isn't the hardcover, it's the restoration. So a softcover would only be about $5.00 cheaper. Would you be willing to spend $45.00 on a Softcover?

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posted October 27, 2002 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ?        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NecessaryImpurity:
It's about time people woke up to the issues facing Necro-Americans! We all treat them shabbily, and it's shameful. My own father is a Necro-American, and since this fact became obvious, no one will invite him to family gatherings anymore. Shameful!

At least in Illinois and Missouri, he can still vote.

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James Friel
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posted October 27, 2002 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
"Getting out the graveyard vote" is a time-honored political tradition in many American cities, especially those Northeastern and Midwestern cities that have (or used to have) functioning political machines.
Perhaps those old political bosses were ahead of their time--far from being corrupt, maybe fellows like Richard J.Daley, James Michael Curley and the rest were visionaries who realized the coming power of the Necro-American political bloc.

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posted October 28, 2002 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vze2        Reply w/Quote
I was worried that this thread would degenerate into an Ask the Answer Man column. I never expected this kind of degeneration.

Seriously, I know we all appreciate Bob's recent participation. Let's not make him regret it by constantly asking him direct questions.

I think Bob is more likely to answer broad questions like

quote:
Originally posted by James Friel:
So, Bob:
In our endless nattering here, we've seemingly begun to simply assume that DC is going to expand DCU Archive production from the current level of about 12 per year to something between 16 and 18 per year over the next few years, not counting the other lines such as Spirit and THUNDER Agents.
It seems to be the only way of reconciling the existence of ever larger numbers of archive series with continuing existing ones on anything like a regular schedule.

Can you address that?

I guess the question comes in two parts:
Does DC think it's a good idea in market terms?
Does the producrion capacity exist?


The answer to these questions enable us to assess the likelihood of, for example, a complete Shazam! Family Archives or expansion into other genres.

If we bombard Bob with questions about specific Archives, he will probably stop answering all of our questions.

Obviously, I cannot speak for Bob or DC, but I'd like to address the other questions that Bob has yet to answer. I'm sure that Bob will correct me if I'm really off base.

quote:
Originally posted by Owen Cardiff Darcy:
Bob, when may we expect to see the Superboy Archive?

I suspect that Superboy is still unscheduled, which means Bob can't answer this question. Perhaps, Bob will be kind enough to post here as soon as it is scheduled.

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Originally posted by kid colt:
Bob,

A couple of weeks ago, I started a thread asking for a Blackhawk 80-page Giant collecting Reed Crandell stories from Blackhawk #41-65. Any chance of anything like that happening, since it would be a long time before DC got to this material in the Archives?


I suspect that Bob's answer would be the same as a common response in Bob Rozakis' Ask the Answer Man column: anything's possible. James and I have suggested doing this for the later issues of the GA Green Lantern and GA Flash Archives. It seems to me that DC won't jump to Crandall until after they see the sales for Blackhawk Vol 2 (which I don't think is on the schedule).

I'm sorry to say that I think Peter Svensson's answer to Frank Balkin's question about paperbacks is correct. Perhaps DC could include this in a small TPB (like the Kirby Green Arrow) with more Toth material from the same time period.

Bob, we all appreciate your recent contributions to the board.

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Bob Greenberger
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posted October 29, 2002 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Greenberger   Click Here to Email Bob Greenberger        Reply w/Quote
First of all, I'm reading all the comments here, from those living and dead.

Second, a big hello to Frank Balkin, one of my steadiest Star trek letter writers from years gone by. Nice to see he made it in the entertainment world.

Adding in the non-DC archives such as The Spirit and T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents has certainly increased our total number in any given year. Additionally, we've found some printing economies and some new outlets that has enabled us to produce a steady stream of books with solid sales. So yes, we have increased output and will again in 2003. I won't give you a final number becuase things change.

DC does not expect any but a few to actually want them ALL and are producing different lines for different readers. There are those Golden Age fans who could care less about the Legion or JLA readers who can't get enough of the Silver Age. And non-hero fans who rejoice at any war offering.

Reaching those disparate audiences are factors we weigh when planning each year's output. And yes, we look at the sales and make choices. We'll take a hard look at the Blackhawk or Doom Patrol numbers before commissioning second volumes. We do that with every number one.

We've been lucky that the number of suppliers for digital restoration and color reconstruction have grown allowing us to increase the output.

We've also been fortunate to be able to hold the price down over the years.

And yes, we've often debated whether or not to release softcover editions of the Archives and each year the argument to remain hardcover only wins. Since the reasons alter year to year, I won't get into them here.

Back to the arguing...

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Marty Raap
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posted October 29, 2002 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Raap        Reply w/Quote
That's an interesting tease about increasing production in 2003. I hope the increase isn't limited to non-DC books (Spirit, Tor, etc.) but includes the line of proper Archives. Perhaps we could eventually get monthly releases of core super-hero Archives (Batman, Shazam, etc.) with some months each year doubling up into Archives from other genres -- Sgt. Rock, Adam Strange, etc. I favor even more the proposal we've discussed earlier of fast-tracking long-running characters like Superman or Batman with multiple releases in a year while still releasing monthly Archives of other characters simultaneously. But really, any expansion of the Archives is a good thing!

I'm also glad to hear that the Archives apparently constitute a steady stream of good-selling books. Hopefully DC will continue to subsidize less successful Archives with more successful Archives; or perhaps even the lowest sellers could still be deemed successful (he types optimistically)?

Finally, my congratulations to those persuasive souls at DC who keep softcover Archives at bay each year. May their kind multiply and prosper! Actually, I wouldn't necessarily mind softcover Archives, as long as I could be sure they wouldn't imperil the hardcover versions in any way. If softcover sales could be seen only as bolstering the hardcover program, it might be a good thing. I'd always stick with buying them in hardcover, myself.

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James Friel
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posted October 30, 2002 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
I find it interesting that Bob speaks of looking at the Doom Patrol and (especially) Blackhawk numbers carefully before proceding further in the future tense.
I'd have expected the time elapsed since Blackhawk and the excellent numbers scored by Doom Patrol to have dictated those decisions one way or the other by now, even if further volumes aren't actually scheduled yet.
Good to hear that the production bottleneck is widening a bit.

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NecessaryImpurity
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posted October 30, 2002 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NecessaryImpurity        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by James Friel:
I find it interesting that Bob speaks of looking at the Doom Patrol and (especially) Blackhawk numbers carefully before proceding further in the future tense.
I'd have expected the time elapsed since Blackhawk and the excellent numbers scored by Doom Patrol to have dictated those decisions one way or the other by now, even if further volumes aren't actually scheduled yet.

The Blackhawk reference might be because they hadn't had all the sales reports from non-Diamond sources by the time of their meeting last summer, but now they do. Now they have to stack Blackhawk up with everything else.

I imagine there is a great cluster of moderately successful Archives that makes their job even tougher. If the most recent volume of the #5 best selling line has sold 5000 copies and the number #15 selling line has sold 4900, they pretty much have their pick of 10 books that warrant another volume. On top of the new #1s and continuations to the top sellers.

My solution is to increase capacity, of course.

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James Friel
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posted October 30, 2002 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Yep.
I think that's the plan.

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Jim Beard
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posted October 30, 2002 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Beard   Click Here to Email Jim Beard        Reply w/Quote
Bob, thanks for reading and posting.

There's been a fair amount of talk here on this board about humor Archives and I'm proud to say that Shelly Mayer's work usually is in the forefront of the requests. Your thoughts on the possibility of a SCRIBBLY & THE RED TORNADO Archive and/or SUGAR & SPIKE.

I don't envy you and your part in the decision-making. All of the requests, all of the choices...yikes.

Jim

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posted October 30, 2002 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
I don't know about Scribbly, but I know Sugar And Spike was given the official "Ha! You Wish!" status by the powers that be recently (am I referring to comments from the San Diego Con? My memory eludes me here.)

I would say that means an S+S is not imminent.

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posted October 30, 2002 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pig Iron   Click Here to Email Pig Iron        Reply w/Quote
It would be difficult to seperate in an unbiased manner what Archives to choose for printing. Some for historic purposes, most for potentuial sales opportunity, and other fan favorites that could be big sellers.

For instance, I would likely never want to publish a Scribbly Archive if I were in Bob or other decision makers' shoes (sorry Jim- I would actually buy it though). But I may be very misinformed at the cult following for such a book. It could be huge and my bias or lack of knowledge would the program missing out on a potential big seller.

I have a feeling there would be alot of research with available data and more checking on the process and updates on currently planned archive material.Imagine the updates and stress over Superboy.

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