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bruce
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posted January 06, 2003 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bruce        Reply w/Quote
I would also like to chip in my request to see a Tomahawk Archive put into print. I gave my Dad the Blackhawk Archive and he enjoyed it very much. He also read Tomahawk as a kid (so I can buy him another gift archive and not feel guilty about taking it from him when he is done reading it).

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The Vigilante
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posted January 06, 2003 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Vigilante   Click Here to Email The Vigilante        Reply w/Quote
The Dr. Fate/Hourman Grundy story was reprinted in The Brave and the Bold #115. I don't believe the second story with the Psycho Pirate has been reprinted anywhere (it's not in the Greatest Team-Up Stories Ever Told volume), unless it was in one of the recent 80-Page Giants or 100-Page Super Specs.

--Rich

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NecessaryImpurity
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posted January 06, 2003 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NecessaryImpurity        Reply w/Quote
The GCD says "The Perils of the Psycho-Pirate" has been printed only once. However, I've noticed that the GCD doesn't have very good quality control on its data. It's possible it was reprinted, but the indexer of the reprint listed the story title without the lead "The" or without the hyphen, or some other such variant.

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Lee Semmens
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posted January 06, 2003 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lee Semmens        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bgztl:
I believe the Psycho-Pirate story WAS reprinted because I recall it. That could just be a flashback lurking in the caverns of my mind.

I FEEL like I've read it.

The Solomon Grundy fight is familiar but my mind is playing tricks on me regularly. Perhaps in one of the 100-page Brave & the Bold Super Specs?? Maybe the Batman & Atom one or thereabouts?

I can almost see the cover -- with the Atom very small in one large panel dominated by someone's [Batman's??] head. Maybe Viking Prince too?


Bgztl, the Psycho-Pirate story has never been reprinted as far as I am aware, which is why I shelled out $50 for Showcase #56 last year.
However, two panels from it were reprinted in Roy Thomas's All-Star Companion, which is what you may have been thinking of.

You were absolutely right about the details of The Brave and the Bold with the Solomon Grundy story - it was B & B #115.

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Duglis
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posted January 06, 2003 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duglis        Reply w/Quote
Bob,
What factors lead to a decision such as
putting out All Star 6 and 7 within 6 months
and then waiting 1 year and 8 months until
#8 and so forth?

I was thinking...that all star 9 with 5
comics, 10 with 7 and 11 with 7 would
complete the series and none would be more
than 223 pages....i wonder if the idea of
completing something would push DC to
release the final 3 within a 1-2 year period?

anyway..just curious!

be well

-douglas

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davidbstewart
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posted January 06, 2003 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidbstewart   Click Here to Email davidbstewart        Reply w/Quote
Mr. Greenberger;

Is there any chance that JIMMY OLSEN 133-139,141-148 will be reprinted in the same format as the Jack Kirby New Gods TPB's. It would be nice to have them all in the same format.

If not in the B&W format, any chance in any format?

Best Regards,

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Green_Hornet
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posted January 06, 2003 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Green_Hornet   Click Here to Email Green_Hornet        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Teisto:
Bob answered this a few pages back. Another CATWOMAN trade is already on the 2003 schedule.

Yay!

Teisto


Ok, cool, I scanned backwards and its on page tweleve. Thanks and sorry to get repetetive. While I'm posting let me again put in another request for Sandman Mysterey Theatre and Ostrander's Spectre.

-Bob

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Bgztl
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posted January 06, 2003 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bgztl   Click Here to Email Bgztl        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lee Semmens:
You were absolutely right about the details of The Brave and the Bold with the Solomon Grundy story - it was B & B #115.


Woo Hoo.

Old fanboys like me NEVER die, they just get more and more confused.

Thanks for the correct information on title and volume.

I ought to go looking for that old book the next time I get a little cash.

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Bgztl
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posted January 06, 2003 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bgztl   Click Here to Email Bgztl        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Vigilante:
The Dr. Fate/Hourman Grundy story was reprinted in The Brave and the Bold #115. I don't believe the second story with the Psycho Pirate has been reprinted anywhere (it's not in the Greatest Team-Up Stories Ever Told volume), unless it was in one of the recent 80-Page Giants or 100-Page Super Specs.

--Rich


oops, sorry Vig.

Thanks to you too.

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Rob Staeger
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posted January 06, 2003 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rob Staeger   Click Here to Email Rob Staeger        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Green_Hornet:
While I'm posting let me again put in another request for Sandman Mysterey Theatre and Ostrander's Spectre.


I was thinking that Sandman Mystery Theater might be an interesting series to try out as a regular series of tpbs, maybe at the smaller Crossgen size to keep prices down.

(I still think the high price killed the first volume -- published years ago, it was $14.95 when paperbacks of comperable size (not to mention the original issues) were around $10.)

Anyway, the material is there. Imagine this -- a complete pocket-sized Wes Dodds adventure every month, shipping to comic shops and bookstores. SMT has the advantage of having most (if not all) story arcs be 4-issues long, which would give the series a uniformity that most tpbs don't have.

The Question might make a good (if shorter) companion series to this, but after the first 12, I'm not sure if the arc-size would work as well. Then again, cliffhangers haven't hurt Lone Wolf and Cub!

Rob


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James Friel
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posted January 06, 2003 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Four issues is way too short for a trade paperback as far as I'm concerned--I prefer my collections to be at least 8 issues, and 12 is better. I jhust can't take a book seriously if it's less than half an inch thick. Unless a four-issue book comes in under eight bucks--not likely--it seems like too much packaging and too little content for me to be happy with it. Maybe a SMT series could collect two story arcs at a time.

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Joe Pacheco
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posted January 06, 2003 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Pacheco   Click Here to Email Joe Pacheco        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rob Staeger:

I was thinking that Sandman Mystery Theater might be an interesting series to try out as a regular series of tpbs, maybe at the smaller Crossgen size to keep prices down.

(I still think the high price killed the first volume -- published years ago, it was $14.95 when paperbacks of comperable size (not to mention the original issues) were around $10.)

Anyway, the material is there. Imagine this -- a complete pocket-sized Wes Dodds adventure every month, shipping to comic shops and bookstores. SMT has the advantage of having most (if not all) story arcs be 4-issues long, which would give the series a uniformity that most tpbs don't have.

Rob


I think this is agreat idea! now that Lone Wolf & Cub is over I could spend $10/month for a years worth of GA Sandman.

Joe

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segaboi24
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posted January 07, 2003 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for segaboi24        Reply w/Quote
is there a possibility that dc may bring back into stock the first batman archive that reprints the early detective comics issues?since it's now sold out it would be very hard to find except for online sites like e-bay(which i find too risky,but that's another story)

thanks for the work you put in with dc trades and your time in answering our questions

Jesse

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dadkrel
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posted January 07, 2003 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadkrel   Click Here to Email dadkrel        Reply w/Quote

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Originally posted by KryptoSuperDog:
Maybe they could put both Huntress & Power Girl & JSA stories into an "Earth 2" Archive.It'll never happen,but wouldn't it be nice?
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Perhaps the Archives should be titled EARTH 2 -- ALL STAR, and EARTH 2 -- ADVENTURE.

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Bob Greenberger
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posted January 07, 2003 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Greenberger   Click Here to Email Bob Greenberger        Reply w/Quote
Boy, you take a few days off and look what happens...

Personally, I applaud Marvel's efforts to get their Masterworks back into print so they can move on to new material. Getting 25-30 volumes back into print over a few months, I suspect will tax editorial, the bullpen, the Hong Kong printers and the retailers. It's not something I would do but maybe that's why I'm not there.

The first Absolute Authority did very well but I've heard nothing about a second volume as of today.

I've been hinting around that some feedback on the team-ups would be nice. For example, should the Flash-Atom and Flash-Doom Patrol team-ups be tossed into Flash Archives? If so, do they then get reused in Atom and DP Archives? Do we just do a team-up Archive? And if we do that, do we skip Starman-Black Canary because that's already in BC Archives?

Yep, Russ Heath is a wonderful artist and his owrk on SEA DEVILS was pretty cool. The covers, though, made an impression on me and maybe it's because I didn't read them as a kid that it didn't linger in my mind. Anyway, SEA DEVILS remains low on the Silver Age list of stuff we're considering.

Our Archive paper for stories remains 80#. Yes, the endpaper stock might have changed with time, printer, paper manufacturer but that's about it. If there's a smudging issue, this is the first I'm hearing of it. Our offices copies of WW Vol. 3 are fine.

Shazam! will continue although Vol. 4 is not on a schedule as of today.

Power Girl, should we start collecting the '70s JSA material, will be dealt with. How? Until we determine a publishing plan I can't say. And thanks for remembering the '80s mini I edited. We tried a few things there that may or may not have worked. still like the covers and the logo.

Unknown Solider and Tomahawk have come up and no doubt will coninute to come up. As I've stated earlier, Seven Soldiers of Victory have come up but most likely as a successor to All Star. And we expect more DOOM PATROL, either Vol. 2 in Archive or more of Grant Morrison's run in trade.

Obsidian Age is obviously the next JLA storyline to be collected after this month's GOLDEN PERFECT collection. I think you'll be pleased with our approach.

Yes, the ABC hardcovers will all eventually have softcover editions.

No plans to collect the Rick Veitch Swamp Thing stories exist as of now, but that doesn't mean we've ruled them out.

Yes, GL #40 was considered for a Millennium Edition but it just didn't make the cut. And we're creeping up on it in the GL Archives so it's just a matter of time.

The Showcase stories with Dr. Fate and Hourman deserve to be reprinted either in someone's Archive or some other collection. To me, I always thought Murphy Anderson drew the helmet best.

Crisis on Multiple Earths Vol. 2? Well, Vol. One is going back for a second printing this month so there's certainly demand. Is there interest even though the first half of the book will already be available through Archives (including this spring's JLA Vol. 8)?

I can't speak to the timing of All Star volumes in the past but at various time we did accelerate some of the lines based on sales velocity. In the same way, we have also slowed down collections. We seem to have settled into an annual rhythm here.

Jimmy Olsen by Jack Kirby is on the drawing boards. Announcement with details soon.

Batman Archives Vol. 1 will be back in print before you know it.

Back to you.

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James Friel
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posted January 07, 2003 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
As always, thanks for the answers, Bob.

Since you're asking for feedback on B&B (and DCCP) team-ups, here's mine:
In general, I think the policy should be, unless there's some clear reason for an exception, to archive team-ups separately. The exceptions I would make are: Starman/Black Canary (already done in BC Archives, and different at the time of publication anyway--though no longer--because of being Earth-2 stories), the 3 Battle Stars issue (collect it with Sgt.Rock), and the Kid Flash/Robin/Aqualad issue (with Teen Titans).
I'd collect all the other non-Batman teamups in a Brave & Bold Teamups Archive (saving the simple Brave & Bold Archive title for the collection of the first 24 issues), then go on later to collect all the teamups involving Batman as a series of Batman In Brave & Bold volumes.
If any stories among the teamups fit particularly well into a character's continuity or are considered part of an essential collection of his or her adventures (the Deadman stories would be an example--the Flash/Doom Patrol story might be another, but on the DP side only), then it can also be included in the character's own archive as well, but these cases would be exceptional.
For my money, the only B&B material I need to see very soon, though, is #1-24.

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dylanfan
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posted January 07, 2003 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
Ummmm......this spring's JLA Vol. 8? Is this news to just me? Or did Bob just nod and wink us?

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Mike Falcon
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posted January 07, 2003 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Falcon   Click Here to Email Mike Falcon        Reply w/Quote
Thanks for you reply Bob. It's great to see that Tomahawk and Unknown Soldier are at least being discussed. I would buy both (as well as GA Green Lantern 3 and a Fox and the Crow Archive ).

As for the team-ups. I would say reprint them in ALL the respective charecters Archives. I don't buy the Falsh Archives but I will get more Doom Patrol volumes. I think most Archive buyers only buy what they like, not everything. So some people would miss out on one their favorite charecters appearances.

I also have a question about digest sized material. If there is a problem reprinting this stuff at full size then just reprint it at the published size. Dark Horse has done this in their Xena and Buffy trades when they reprinted their TV guide stories.
I'm saying this because if you are planning a second New Teen Titans volume that digest story (Reunion) really should be reprinted in it.

Thanks!

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dylanfan
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posted January 07, 2003 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
And as long as James is throwing his money around, I, too, want to see the Brave and the Bold #1-24 pronto. I likes me my Heath and Kubert!

I also think his observations on how to address the teamups is right on, but perhaps this deserves a thread of its own, similar to the Legion/KK question. Anyone with a more familiar conception of these comics than me want to phrase the question at hand in another thread?

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JayFlip
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posted January 07, 2003 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JayFlip        Reply w/Quote
I agree with James on the B&B topic, though I would enjoy seeing the early Batman team-ups incorporated, in chronological order of course, with the others. Thus, the first couple volumes might contain one or two Batman team-ups each, with the third beginning the (almost) all Batman team-ups.

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James Friel
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posted January 07, 2003 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dylanfan:
Ummmm......this spring's JLA Vol. 8? Is this news to just me? Or did Bob just nod and wink us?


I think that was a new piece of information--as was the Kirby Jimmy Olsen actually being "on the drawing board".

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posted January 07, 2003 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ?        Reply w/Quote
I doubt that a hard and fast rule for team-ups would work well. Each situation is different. It all depends on how important the team-up is to the character's history. This would obviously mean that team-ups would more likely be included for second-tier characters. Batman's team-ups with Green Arrow (just to pick a hypothetical example out of the hat) are memorable, but not of historical importance to the Batman character. But to Green Arrow mythos, they are essentially important. There's no need to print a GA team-up in a seventies Batman Archive, then, but there's no way to do a legitimate seventies Green Arrow Archive without them.

In general, if Superman or Batman are involved, I would include it in the "guest star"'s archive, but not in Superman or Batman's. It the team-up features two heroes of equal stature and their names don't include "Super" or "Bat", I would print it in both archives, unless one character dominates over the other in a notable way.

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davidbstewart
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posted January 07, 2003 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidbstewart   Click Here to Email davidbstewart        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
Jimmy Olsen by Jack Kirby is on the drawing boards. Announcement with details soon.

Wow. I asked about this with only the faintest hope. Good news, indeed. Thank you for the info.

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Owen Cardiff Darcy
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posted January 07, 2003 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Owen Cardiff Darcy        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bob Greenberger:
And we expect more DOOM PATROL, either Vol. 2 in Archive or more of Grant Morrison's run in trade.

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casselmm47
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posted January 07, 2003 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for casselmm47   Click Here to Email casselmm47        Reply w/Quote
I'm essentailly with '?' on some of his thoughts:

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Originally posted by ?:
I doubt that a hard and fast rule for team-ups would work well. Each situation is different. It all depends on how important the team-up is to the character's history. This would obviously mean that team-ups would more likely be included for second-tier characters. Batman's team-ups with Green Arrow (just to pick a hypothetical example out of the hat) are memorable, but not of historical importance to the Batman character. But to Green Arrow mythos, they are essentially important. There's no need to print a GA team-up in a seventies Batman Archive, then, but there's no way to do a legitimate seventies Green Arrow Archive without them.

About GA: I wouldn't go as far to say it wouldn't be 'legitimate', since there are several sources for GA material once you get into the '70's... Flash, World's Finest, and Action backup strips just to start... the bigger problem is where and how to market it as an entity given the presence of GL and BC in his stories, and the overlap with a future GL (or GL/GA) archive (once they get that far). Beyond his B&B #85 teamup, I can't recall any significant Batman or Superman teamups that were 'memorable' or 'advanced' the character substantially.

Acknowleging that you just pulled GA outta the air, a better example may have been characters such as Creeper, Demon, Firestorm, Hawk and Dove, Richard Dragon, Black Lightning and Kamandi, whose seperate archive line may benefit from 1) another 17-22 pages to pad an otherwise underized/'offbalance' Archive page count (as some of the mappings here have shown), or 2) to the flow of a characters growth from a rare crossover with the rest of the DCU. (if that's what you meant later in terms of 'dominating over the other in the teamup').

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Originally posted by ?:
In general, if Superman or Batman are involved, I would include it in the "guest star"'s archive, but not in Superman or Batman's. It the team-up features two heroes of equal stature and their names don't include "Super" or "Bat", I would print it in both archives, unless one character dominates over the other in a notable way.

Agreed about not having them in a Bat/Super-centric archive, and this is where the 'on a case by case basis' problem falls...frequent costars like GA, BC, Wildcat, Hawkman, Aquaman, Sgt Rock... Not many of these teamups contributed a great deal to the history of the costars involved. In the case of Sgt Rock (once that archive line catches up), it may not contribute to the 'flow' of the book to have a Bats/Rock teamup put in between two Our Army At War features.

Later volumes of a Metal Men Archive may actually benefit from the B&B/DCCP issues, as it fills a gap following the cancellation of their series up to present. On the flip side, the WW teamup from B&B #140, Mar/Apr 1978 wouldn't fit in sequence with it's contemporary Mar-Apr '78 issues in a future WW Archive, since the tales in her solo title during early '78 were that of the Golden Age WW. That also mirrors the concerns of the Rock teamups... some take place in the 1940's, others in the 1970's.

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