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Corrosive Kid Member |
posted October 01, 2002 03:57 PM
 
quote: Only up to the point where people stop buying them. And that's exactly what will happen with the Legion Archives if they force less-than-mediocre issues of Karate Kid down people's throats. IP: Logged |
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Shazam-0 Member |
posted October 03, 2002 04:59 PM
After giving this matter a great deal of thought, I'm casting my vote for the inclusion of all issues of Karate Kid's 70s series in future Legion Archives. KK's series was an entertaining tangent from the LSH's 30th century saga. IP: Logged |
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assumpta brava Member |
posted October 06, 2002 10:45 AM
.only #1 of karate kid is necessary to be included. IP: Logged |
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chlorophyll kid Member |
posted October 06, 2002 01:44 PM
The Karate Kid run should not be included. Issue it as a trade paperback at the same time as Legion 12. IP: Logged |
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NecessaryImpurity Member |
posted December 12, 2002 09:57 PM
BUMP, to keep the thread alive. I'd like to compare our comments with the final product, when it comes out. IP: Logged |
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Joe Pacheco Member |
posted December 12, 2002 11:09 PM
I just saw a deal for Karate Kid 1-11 for ten bucks at on of the shops down the street. I don't remember who described it as an ugly copy of 1970's Spider-Man, but after looking at the books I'd have to agree. IP: Logged |
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dylanfan Member |
posted December 12, 2002 11:36 PM
I know I risk setting off several dozen good people on this board, but.... If the slim Challengers Archive is a success, why not a slim KK Archive? It could be solicited at an appropriate time on the back of a Legion Archive. It would most likely solve the problem of milling into Legion Archives stories that many don't want, while at the same time giving the KK stories to those of us who want them. People who don't want the KK stories simply wouldn't have to buy the Archives. I know completists that don't like KK wouldn't like this, nor will people who think KK would be "stealing" a slot. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Owen Cardiff Darcy Member |
posted December 13, 2002 11:51 AM
From the Questions for Bob Greenberger thread: "Of course we reached a Legion Archives decision. Announcement should be made shortly." IP: Logged |
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Rob Staeger Member |
posted December 13, 2002 06:08 PM
quote: It's an interesting idea, but I doubt it would sell. I'd rather have the KK stories in their own achive than diluting the Legion, although I have to admit I wouldn't be in any hurry to buy it. Rob IP: Logged |
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Michael Bise Member |
posted December 13, 2002 06:37 PM
I can't believe those who complain about NTT #2 WANT the KK stories in the LEGION Archives! It's NOT the LEGION!!!!!!!!!! ------------------ Michael IP: Logged |
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vze2 Member |
posted December 13, 2002 07:25 PM
This discussion was pretty much over before I found out about this board. Had I been around, I would have been in favor of collecting KK in a trade paperback (or two, I haven't added up the pages) and published around the same time as Legion 12. I believe that the connection between KK and Legion is strong enough to merit a KK collection but not strong enough to merit inclusion in the Legion Archives. Should this KK collection be a TPB or an Archive? I will buy I TPB (or 2 if that's what it takes). I think that DC will make more money if it is a TPB, but I'm not against an Archive since it would match the Legion Archives. I will probably buy an Archive becuase of the connection to Legion. However, this Archive should be in addition to the regular schedule. My point appears to be a subtle one. Hopefully the following two scenarios will make everything clear. Assume that DC has already decided not to include KK in the Legion Archives. Bad scenario DC has a meeting to choose X Archives for next year. I'm going to say that X=14, but this is just an example. In this meeting, DC discusses 25 candidates for the 14 slots. KK is one of the candidates. KK ends up being one of the 14. Good scenario The same meeting. The same 14 slots. However, KK is not one of the 25 candidates and does not earn one of the 14 slots. After the discussion, or at an entirely different meeting, DC discusses the best format for a KK collection. DC chooses to go with the Archive. IP: Logged |
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jlaavenger Member |
posted December 16, 2002 05:35 PM
I say include them all. In fact I'd love to see the New Teen Titans Archives number 2 include the Tales of the Titans miniseries in it as well. Thanks Kirk. IP: Logged |
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Owen Cardiff Darcy Member |
posted December 16, 2002 05:45 PM
quote: The Tales mini-series was also by Wolfman and Perez and revealed the origins of some of the characters, so of course it should be included. The Karate Kid series had little significance to the Legion mythos and was one of the worst things DC ever published. IP: Logged |
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shirleytemple of D00M Member |
posted January 11, 2003 01:24 AM
quote: Has the announcement been made??? IP: Logged |
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NecessaryImpurity Member |
posted January 11, 2003 01:47 AM
No announcement yet, but at the rate this is taking, it'll be a full year from the time Bob first asked us for our thoughts and the book's appearance. Somehow, I think the same lag is in store for the book that prompted the Brave and Bold question. IP: Logged |
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Tom Fury Member |
posted January 11, 2003 05:03 AM
Why not use the Challs thinner format on Karate Kid? Hmm? IP: Logged |
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dylanfan Member |
posted January 11, 2003 11:57 AM
I posited just such a thing in another thread, but it died for lack of a second. I like the idea of a complete KK thin archive solicited at the same time as the corresponding Legion Archive. Seems to me, though, there would be many Archives completists who would howl at such a thing. I wish they could take the stick out of their booties and realize that it's not so bad after all. There are those of us who are into the Legion story through these Archives, and would love to see it in all its facets. KK, in many people's estimation (though not all), is one of those facets. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Bgztl Member |
posted January 21, 2003 05:27 PM
bumped in the name of love. IP: Logged |
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Owen Cardiff Darcy Member |
posted January 21, 2003 05:30 PM
And it will be bumped again in April when Vol. 12 is published. May this thread never die! IP: Logged |
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Marty Raap Member |
posted January 21, 2003 07:27 PM
I'm an Archive completist and I wouldn't object at all to dylanfan's "slim volume" solution. In fact, it sounds like a good idea to me. (Perhaps I have no stick in my booty after all?) I don't so much care that the stories appear in any particular volume, just that they're available where they can be read if you want to check them out when you get to that point in Legion history. To use another example, I would have preferred if something like the GA Flash story from early All-Star had appeared in the appropriate GA Flash volume, but if DC eventually publishes some sort of collection that includes All-Star #1-2, that'll be just fine with me. I wouldn't object to KK being left out of Legion if I thought there was any chance of dylanfan's slim volume idea actually coming to pass in the foreseeable future. I'm already dismayed at how long All-Star #1-2 are taking to see print, and I actually think we'll get those at some point! IP: Logged |
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dylanfan Member |
posted January 21, 2003 08:16 PM
Before we get carried away with the "slim" volume idea, I just doublechecked my numbers and KK went 15 issues, plus a Kamandi crossover. At 18 pages per, that's gonna be over 270 pages to do it all in one. Cut in half, it would be 135 or so pages for the first 8 issues, which I suppose would be a slim volume. But then it would take two KK volumes to get the job done. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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vze2 Member |
posted January 21, 2003 09:58 PM
Marty, Would a TPB (or 2 if that's what it takes) be acceptable to you? IP: Logged |
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dylanfan Member |
posted January 21, 2003 10:19 PM
Or how about using only extra-continuitous (if that's not a word, it should be!  ) issues of KK in Legion Archives, and having the leftover issues released in a seperate trade? Not a very tasty alternative, but it is an alternative.------------------ IP: Logged |
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Marty Raap Member |
posted January 22, 2003 01:49 AM
Well, this gets into the realm of personal preference, I suppose, but I'm not a big TPB person at all. I buy monthly comics to get the original books or, if I'm buying reprints, I like to buy them in a deluxe format (Archives, Masterworks, etc.) that is library-quality. I appreciate the argument that all that really matters is that you get to read the stuff, but I'm already so backlogged on stuff to read that I'm picky about what else I add to the queue. I'm much more likely to spring for a $50 hardback, oddly enough, than I am a $15 TPB. Of course, I'm the kind of guy who buys the new novels in hardback as they're released, so part of this is that I just enjoy a well-made book as a thing to appreciate in and of itself. As to the "selected issues of KK in Legion" idea, that's my least favorite of the other two options (the other two being print all or print some). As I've recently explained a bit more on the "Questions for Bob Greenberger" thread, I just don't like the idea of some anonymous person or persons arbitrarily including selected issues in a series. I'd rather have them omit KK altogether if I couldn't get my first choice of including everything. Reading KK #1 in Legion #12 and then skipping to #4-5 in Legion #13, say, would just bug me. In my view, it's kind of like watching the first 10 minutes of a movie for the first time and then jumping ahead and watching 10 minutes in the middle. Even if it's a good movie, I think trying to enjoy it piecemeal hurts the overall effect, and I'd just as soon not watch any of it rather than separate it out. But I'll also add that I'm not one of those guys who says I'll stop buying it if I don't get my way. I'll buy the Legion Archives regardless of how they handle the KK "problem" (really, is it that much of a problem, either way?). I'd just prefer to get them all in there because I'd like to read the Legion stories as close as possible to how people were reading them at the time, and this is probably the only chance to see the KK stuff Archived. IP: Logged |
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Marty Raap Member |
posted January 22, 2003 01:55 AM
Whoops -- in that last post, I meant to say the other two options were print all of KK or print none. A little typo there. But hey, given that I've got a 2 1/2 year old daughter helping me hit the keys here, one typo ain't too bad. IP: Logged |
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