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Cloneranger
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posted February 17, 2003 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cloneranger   Click Here to Email Cloneranger        Reply w/Quote
Well, this is very good news. Since I have the original volumes, I won't be picking up the issued ones, but I think this bodes well for the continuation of the series beyond the first 32.

While I'm not anal enough to buy 28-32 just to get the matching dustjackets to the first 27, I am anal enough to buy just the last 5 dustjackets (without the books) if they offered them seperately. Any chance of that, dylanfan?

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dylanfan
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posted February 17, 2003 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
I think there is very little chance of that. I hope to find out definitively very soon, though.

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davidbstewart
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posted February 17, 2003 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidbstewart   Click Here to Email davidbstewart        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dylanfan:
I think there is very little chance of that. I hope to find out definitively very soon, though.


Any possibility of finding out whether Marvel would offer a set of the Mach 3 dustjackets for the first 31 that were originally offered in other trade dresses?

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dylanfan
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posted February 17, 2003 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
More from Marvel on Masterworks. Details about coloring, paper quality, and instances of "remastering." Check it out at the "news" section of my website, linked below.

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Max Meridian
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posted February 18, 2003 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Max Meridian   Click Here to Email Max Meridian        Reply w/Quote
Why would Marvel release FF vol.1 and then FF vol.3?! This makes no sense to me at all. Where is FF vol.2?!

The Marvel Masterworks are very frustrating.

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vze2
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posted February 18, 2003 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vze2        Reply w/Quote
There's more info on dylanfan's web site, but here's the short version.

Marvel has some sort of agreement with their printer which makes it economical for them to work on all the ones which have the same number of pages first. Marvel has announced the ones that they've finished.

I think that within a few months, we will see all of the original 32 volumes solicited and that the shipping dates will make sense (for instance, FF 2 will be released after FF 1 and before FF3).

So it appears that Marvel is using some logic, just not communicating it to the general public. Hope that helps.

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Max Meridian
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posted February 18, 2003 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Max Meridian   Click Here to Email Max Meridian        Reply w/Quote
Thanks! I've confused about this for some time know. I'm glad I checked out this site.

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Max Meridian
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posted February 18, 2003 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Max Meridian   Click Here to Email Max Meridian        Reply w/Quote
While I'm still here-these are some Masterworks that I'd like to see in print

Tomb of Dracula(Gene Colon)
Werewolf by Night(Mike Ploog and others)
Frankenstein(Mike Ploog-John Buscema)
Man-Thing(more Ploog tuffness)
Morbius the Living Vampire

more later.must get back to work.

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posted February 20, 2003 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for outpost2        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dylanfan:
Visit the Marvel Masterworks fansite and Message Board:
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dylanfan, have you considered a Masterworks survey similar to DStepp's DC Archive survey? DC seems to pay attention to the results, maybe Marvel would too. Such a survey should be held on your site though, and not on this message board.

After the initial 32, I'd like to see:

Golden Age:
Captain America
Human Torch
Sub-Mariner
And maybe All-Winners Squad and Young Allies.

Silver Age:
Antman/Giantman
Human Torch
Nick Fury & the Howling Commandos / Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. (possibly as a flipbook)
Who else had a feature at this time?

Bronze Age:
Captain Marvel
Ghost Rider
Man-Thing
Warlock
Hmmmm, who else?

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Osgood Peabody
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posted April 17, 2003 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Osgood Peabody   Click Here to Email Osgood Peabody        Reply w/Quote
Somehow I never got around to picking up any Masterworks the first time around, and then I've been waiting it out the last few years, but with this new "re-mastering", I'm ready to finally take advantage of my dumb luck.

Now my question is this - I walk into a comics shop on May 28th to pick up FF vol. 1 - what do I look for? I'm totally clueless here, and I want to make sure I pick up the "remastered" version, but I'm not sure what it looks like (is there a picture of the cover previewed somewhere?)

As a newcomer, I want to get off on the right foot, so any help would be much appreciated.

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NecessaryImpurity
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posted April 17, 2003 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NecessaryImpurity        Reply w/Quote
Hang out at dylanfan's website and boards. All will be revealed.

For a preview of what to expect, got to Barnes & Noble (brick and mortar, not .com) and look at the paperback versions B&N just issued. Word is, these have the remastering. Certainly, the "Spider-Man, V1" at B&N doesn't match my HC I bought last year.

If you are concerned about other factors, do what I intend to do: wait. There were so many production gaffes last year that I refused to buy any more Masterworks. Maybe they heard me (earlier in this thread and over on dylanfan's boards), because last year's effort was quickly abandonded. I want to see what the production looks like before spending another cent. If I like it, and I don't hear too many complaints from others, then early next year, I will start buying Masterworks again.

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dylanfan
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posted April 17, 2003 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
Osgood...FF Vol. 1 is easy. If you see it in the new silver and black trade dress, it's the remastered edition.

The only books you will have to worry about are the five that were released in the new silver and black trade dress in early '02. They are the following:

1- X-Men Vol. 1
2- Sub-Mariner Vol. 1
3- Spider-Man Vol. 1
4- Spider-Man Vol. 2
5- Avengers Vol. 1

Subby will be easy to spot, as it will have the "DARDEVIL" misspelling on the front cover corrected.

Spider-Man Vol. 2 will be easy to spot, as it will list the contents as ASM #11-19 and Annual #1, which is different from last year's book (which was ASM #11-20.)

As to how to tell the difference between the other three, I am not sure how. I don't know if the ISBN will be different or not, and I haven't heard about any stickers to be put on the seal. If you pre-order from your comics guy, the Diamond order number will certainly be new. Make sure to match it up to what the announced contents will be, which you can find at my site at the following link:
http://www.marvelmasterworks.freeservers.com/remasterworks.html

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dylanfan
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posted April 17, 2003 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
By the bye, here's the changes announced for the five volumes that have already seen print in the silver and black trade dress:

Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 1: Collects Amazing Fantasy #15 and #1-10. Fully recolored to match the original issues. The pinup pages from ASM Annual #1 have been pulled, the pinup from #3 has been correctly associated with the issue (previously in Vol. 2), a bonus page from ASM #1 has been added and Ditko’s unused covers to Amazing Fantasy #15 and ASM #1 have been included as bonus items.

Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 2: Collects #11-19, Annual #1. Annual #1 has been shifted into this volume to its correct chronological placement. All 72-pages of the annual will be printed in their entirety for the first time, including fourteen pages of previously unreprinted material. #20 shifts from this volume to Vol. 3 to maintain the $49.99 price point.

Avengers Vol. 1: Collects #1-10. The Captain America pinup from #10 (previously seen in Cap Masterworks) moves to its correct placement in this volume.

Sub-Mariner Vol. 1: Collects Marvel Comics #1, Daredevil #7 and Tales to Astonish #70-87. The sole interior change is the inclusion of the Marvel Comics #1 cover at full size. The spelling error on the dustjacket has been corrected

X-Men Vol. 1: Collects #1-10. Now includes the pinups from #6, 8 and 9. Covers have been corrected to match the original’s coloring.

The changes to the first two Spidey books are substantive enough that folks might really want to add those to their collections, even if they have the original books. The other three are a little less urgent in that the changes range from cosmetic (changing errors, enlarging cover artwork) to minor (a few extra pinups added.) There might be the opportunity to score the 2002 versions of these books at reduced prices if you're willing to pass on the remastering improvements.

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Scippio
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posted May 07, 2003 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scippio   Click Here to Email Scippio        Reply w/Quote
Since Hulk Volume 1 comes out today, I thought that this deserved a bump. I ordered mine from Tales of Wonder, so I probably won't get it until next week, but I'm interested in what everybody else thinks of it.

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posted May 08, 2003 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gmp        Reply w/Quote
Dylanfan,

Do you know if there has been any improvement in the line art reprodcution on the early Spider-Man volumes?

Glenn

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Live from Sagittarius A *
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posted May 08, 2003 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Live from Sagittarius A *        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Scippio:
Since Hulk Volume 1 comes out today, I thought that this deserved a bump. I ordered mine from Tales of Wonder, so I probably won't get it until next week, but I'm interested in what everybody else thinks of it.

This issue will speak volumes of how the collecting public may recieve futher Masterworks. The last batch had a few problem,with the slim slick paper being the most obvious. Will this Masterwork have paper like the original Masterworks or will Marvel continue with the slimmer kind and force readers to wait a few years as the rippling effects subsides?
Hopefully Marvel has learned their lesson (I know I never will,ever the Polly Anna with reguards to my faith in the Masterwork system) and they will make sure they stay commited to a publishing schedual that will eventually see Incredible Hulk Master Works vol.2 with the first half of the Jolly Green Giants co-feature in Tales To Astonish.
I guess the best thing to do is just take them one book at a time. Look and purchase each volume as if it was the last in that perticular series, then in a few years if we never see a Mighty Thor Masterworks vol.4 or a Fantastic Four Masterworks vol.7 we won't feel foolish for investing our money in a incomplete project.
I think more important, and this is why D C has so much more respect,Marvel needs to decide if this project is for the fans and collectors or if it is to just make a quick buck. Silver Age Flash has just 3 archives and Doom Patrol has just 1 so far, both have not seen a new edition in over a year and may not see one till 2004. But, because any and all the other released archives are part of the whole, the collector of those never feels abandoned. Even Golden Age Starman fans hold a possitive hope for that series getting its second and closing volume

I want so much to have Amazing Spider-Man and Fantastic Four thru 1974,but I need to relise the masterworks survival is not hedged on weather I purchase Daredevil vol.1 or not. In otherwords, I may be purchasing only a few select masterworks and saving the bulk for when and if Incedible Hulk Masterwork vol.7 (Incredible Hulk 131 thru 140) hits the stands


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posted May 08, 2003 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Bise   Click Here to Email Michael Bise        Reply w/Quote
My retailer had 2 versions of the Hulk on the shelves yesterday. One looked liked the Old School version, but the other didn't look like one of those ridiculously-designed Comicraft version.

Which is the newest? Which is best quality?

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posted May 08, 2003 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gmp:
Dylanfan,

Do you know if there has been any improvement in the line art reprodcution on the early Spider-Man volumes?

Glenn


There are no line art reproductions done to the pages in the remasterworks. All changes are in the domain of matching original colors and making sure every page of content for each issue is represented.

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dylanfan
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posted May 08, 2003 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Scippio:
Since Hulk Volume 1 comes out today, I thought that this deserved a bump. I ordered mine from Tales of Wonder, so I probably won't get it until next week, but I'm interested in what everybody else thinks of it.

Lots of talk on that very subject here:
http://pub52.ezboard.com/fmarvelmasterworksfansitefrm1.showMessage?topicID=655.topic

The short of it? Everyone is very pleased with the book, with some niggling about thinness of the paper and potentially some minor bleed through.

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posted May 08, 2003 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Michael Bise:
My retailer had 2 versions of the Hulk on the shelves yesterday. One looked liked the Old School version, but the other didn't look like one of those ridiculously-designed Comicraft version.

Which is the newest? Which is best quality?


The innards are exactly the same. Only the dustjackets are different. If you want the limited version, act fast, as it's a small print run of 620.

I would recommend the new one. You can purchase it at your leisure, as it will be staying in print (what a concept!)

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Michael Bise
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posted May 08, 2003 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Bise   Click Here to Email Michael Bise        Reply w/Quote
WHICH is the Limted Ed?

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posted May 08, 2003 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Pattison   Click Here to Email Jim Pattison        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Michael Bise:
WHICH is the Limted Ed?


The limited edition is the 'Old School' one, with the marble dustwerapper.

Jim

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posted May 08, 2003 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Bise   Click Here to Email Michael Bise        Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Jim.

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posted May 09, 2003 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spangles   Click Here to Email Spangles        Reply w/Quote
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posted May 09, 2003 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
Do you want the next batch of limited editions? The order deadline is May 15. The next batch includes X-Men Vol. 2, Daredevil Vol. 2, Spidey Vol. 4, Avengers Vol. 2 and 3 and Thor Vol. 2. Check my site, linked below, at the news section for more details.

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