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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted March 01, 2002 11:12 PM
  
While there are many worthy candidates (Kirby's Jimmy Olsen and the Wein/Wrightson Swamp Thing come to mind), I suspect that a Batman collection centered around the O'Neil/Adams canon is the odds-on favorite to be this year's slipcase (a la GL/GA and Deadman). Since the announcement could come as early as April, I thought I'd flesh this out a bit. The most likely stories to be included: (for brevity, DO = written by Denny O'Neil, NA = pencilled by Neal Adams, DG = inked by Dick Giordano) "The Secret of the Waiting Graves" Detective #395 (Jan. 1970) DO/NA/DG (the 1st O'Neil/Adams Batman collaboration) "The Silent Night of the Batman" Batman #219 (Feb. 1970) Mike Friedrich/NA/DG "Paint a Picture of Peril" Detective #397 (Mar. 1970) DO/NA/DG "Challenge of the Man-bat" Detective #400 (Jun. 1970) Frank Robbins/NA/DG "Man or Bat?" Detective #402 (Aug. 1970) Frank Robbins/NA/DG "Ghost of the Killer Skies" Detective #404 (Oct. 1970) DO/NA/DG (Enemy Ace tribute) "Marriage: Impossible" Detective #407 (Jan. 1971) Frank Robbins/NA/DG (conclusion of the Man-Bat trilogy) "The House That Haunted Batman" Detective #408 (Feb. 1971) Len Wein/Marv Wolfman/NA/DG (Surreal battle vs. Dr. Tzin-Tzin) "A Vow from the Grave" Detective #410 (Apr. 1971) DO/NA/DG "Daughter of the Demon" Batman #232 (Jun. 1971) DO/NA/DG (The 1st Ra's Al-Ghul appearance) "Half an Evil" Batman #234 (Aug. 1971) DO/NA/DG (return of Two-Face) "Swamp Sinister" Batman #235 (Sep. 1971) DO/Irv Novick/DG (not done by Adams, but an integral part of the Al-Ghul storyline) "Night of the Reaper" Batman #237 (Dec. 1971) DO/NA/DG (Classic Halloween story) "Vengeance for a Dead Man" Batman #240 (Mar. 1972) DO/Irv Novick/DG (continues the Al-Ghul storyline) "Bruce Wayne - Rest in Peace" Batman #242 (Jun. 1972) DO/Irv Novick/DG (begins the climactic trilogy with Ra's) "The Lazarus Pit" Batman #243 (Aug. 1972) DO/NA/DG "The Demon Lives Again" Batman #244 (Sep. 1972) DO/NA/DG "The Bruce Wayne Murder Case" Batman #245 (Oct. 1972) DO/NA/DG (Coda to the Al-Ghul saga, featuring the only appearance of the Earth-1 Osgood Peabody "The Joker's 5-Way Revenge" Batman #251 (Sep. 1973) DO/NA/DG (Return of the Joker) "Moon of the Wolf" Batman #255 (Mar/Apr 1974) Len Wein/NA/DG (The final Adams-drawn story) This adds up to about 350 pages of content, which was the range of the GL/GA and Deadman collections.
Worthy stories from this era that probably won't make the cut: "One Bullet Too Many" Batman #217 (Dec. 1969) Frank Robbins/Irv Novick/DG (The story that initiated the "Creature of the Night" era, sending Robin off to college and moving Bruce Wayne into the city) "The First of the Assassins" Detective #405 (Nov. 1970) DO/Bob Brown/Frank Giacoia (The first League of Assassins story - O'Neil's initial attempt to give the "new" Batman a worthy adversary, this would provide better context for the later Ras Al Ghul tales) "Your Servant of Death - Dr. Darrk" Detective #406 (Dec. 1970) DO/Irv Novick/DG (2nd League of Assassins) "Red Water, Crimson Death" Brave and the Bold #93 (Dec/Jan 1971) DO/NA (Ostensibly a "team-up" with the House of Mystery, this reads more like a Batman tale than a B&B story and would fit right in to this collection) "Into the Den of the Death-Dealers" Detective #411 (May 1971) DO/Bob Brown/DG (3rd League of Assassins, and 1st appearance of Talia) "At Dawn Dies Mary MacGuffin" Batman #241 (May 1972) DO/Irv Novick/DG (No earth-shaking menace or supernatural gimmicks - just Batman racing against the clock to track down a killer, one of O'Neil's finest Batman stories IMO) "The Batman Nobody Knows" Batman #250 (July 1973) Frank Robbins/DG (nice story with Bruce Wayne getting 3 different images of Batman relayed by kids around a campfire) "Who Knows What Evil?" Batman #253 (Nov. 1973) DO/Irv Novick/DG (Batman meets The Shadow - need I say more?) "Night of the Stalker" Detective #439 (Feb/Mar 1974) Steve Englehart/Sal Amendola/DG (A fitting culmination of the Creature of the Night theme, a story in which the Batman utters nary a word while relentless tracking a gang of killers) IP: Logged |
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KryptoSuperDog Member |
posted March 02, 2002 12:46 AM
Sounds like a good line-up of stories to me. I'd kinda like to see a Ras Al'Ghul volume all to itself, though. But I have a funny feeling that you're right...that they'll either do a Batman book this year, or maybe a New Gods one, (although I hate the New Gods, so whatevah whatevah LOL) IP: Logged |
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scoteric Member |
posted March 02, 2002 01:52 AM
of course, I'd be stymied, because I own nearly every comic you listed above,,,finally an $80 collection I won't have to buy! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Carlo Member |
posted March 02, 2002 02:32 AM
yep, for once, I think I got all of these puppies, too... IP: Logged |
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The Anti-Life Equation Member |
posted March 02, 2002 08:04 AM
quote: It already exists- ------------------ "Just because it's me saying it doesn't make it wrong." IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted March 02, 2002 11:23 AM
No question - all but 4 of the likely suspects have been reprinted before, but that did not deter them in their previous slipcase releases. One thing that's a little different here - both GL/GA and Deadman were reprinted almost identically in their Baxter releases in the '80s. In the case of these Batman stories, the reprints are scattered across 2 Baxter releases (Ras and Man-Bat), the Greatest Batman and Greatest Joker books, a Millenium Edition, and the Batman in the 70s collection. So there would at least be some novelty in collecting them all in one place. IP: Logged |
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scoteric Member |
posted March 02, 2002 11:44 AM
true... but I meant I have almost all of them in their original comic book form (not reprinted or in other books)...so there's no point in me getting a book with all of them appearing in it...other than to avoid opening plastic bags when I would ever want to re-read a story... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted March 03, 2002 08:51 PM
Having them in pristine condition, in a durable format is worth something too, I think. Those Baxter reprints have held up pretty well, so I've passed on getting the prior 2 slipcases - but if this Batman collection does materialize I would give it serious consideration. IP: Logged |
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TheRogueLegionnaire Member |
posted March 04, 2002 10:32 AM
Personnally, I'd like to see new direction Wonder Woman myself. IP: Logged |
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BillNolan Member |
posted March 04, 2002 11:04 AM
I think the Silver Age Spectre material would also be a good choice, but I'd buy any of the suggestions so far. - Bill IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted April 25, 2002 09:21 AM
Thought I'd give this a bump, as it was nearing the point of no return. Strange that with all the recent announcements, no word yet on this year's slipcase. Last year, I think Deadman was announced in early April - so it should be soon. IP: Logged |
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datalore Member |
posted April 25, 2002 09:24 AM
So, there's still hope for an Angel & the Ape collection, eh?  ------------------ IP: Logged |
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JayFlip Member |
posted April 25, 2002 09:36 AM
These are all great stories and deserve the high-class slipcase treatment. I would happily pay to see the proposed 500-page edition. IP: Logged |
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NecessaryImpurity Member |
posted April 25, 2002 12:34 PM
I don;t think the deadman volume sold well. When I was poking through the numbers for the Archive sales, I don't recall seeing Deadman. Maybe I missed it, but if it didn't register on the Top 25 for its month, then initial orders were under 1200 or so. If the sales were low, DC may be thinking very carefully about what it should issue as a $75 item, as opposed to a regular Archive. IP: Logged |
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James Friel Member |
posted April 25, 2002 01:25 PM
Batman isn't Deadman, though. He'd have automatically much greater sales than either Deadman or, I suspect, Green Lantern. I'd guess that Deadman was done in this format because it was one-and-a-half Archives in length and a single storyline. I love the book but I can't say I'm surprised if it's a dud. I'd love a boxed hardcover set collecting all the Adams Batman work, including Brave & Bold, World's Finest teamups with Superman, and covers. IP: Logged |
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JayFlip Member |
posted April 25, 2002 03:12 PM
quote: dylanfan's Marvel Masterworks site (sorry, I don't have the link) had listed the Deadman edition as selling for $52 on Amazon.com. That's a steal in my opinion (I bought mine for $75). I agree that a collection of Neal Adams Batman stories would be a far different animal than Deadman. BTW, did Adams only draw the one issue of WF? Are there more that I'm not remembering? IP: Logged |
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willj Member |
posted April 25, 2002 04:19 PM
I would love a slip case of these stories. i bought the deadman slipcase but passed on the GL/GA slipcase; I think I have three reprints of that storyline as it is. but I like batman stories in tpbk or hardcovers. easier to enjoy than the current batman books where you have to buy 7 titles to get 1 story that is only 1/2 way decent. will j. IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted April 25, 2002 05:28 PM
quote: Adams stint on WF was brief - 2 issues, 175 & 176, sandwiched in between the Swan and Andru/Esposito eras in 1968. As much as I'd love to see all of Adams Batman work collected, there's just too much out there even for a slipcase. That's why I'd opt to focus on the peak early '70s period. Most of the earlier WF and B&B stuff looks great, but the stories were not great IMO. And the 2 notable stand-outs from the late '60s - the first couple of Batman/Deadman team-ups, are already in the Deadman slipcase. IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted June 23, 2002 09:17 PM
So the summer solstice has come and gone, and this year's slipcase is still under wraps! Maybe a big unveiling at one of the upcoming comicons? Or to put it more succinctly - what the blazes are they waiting for? IP: Logged |
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Old Dude Member |
posted June 24, 2002 01:46 AM
Has DC stated that the slipcases are an annual publishing event? Or is this speculation / wishful thinking? IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted August 09, 2002 08:07 PM
I thought I would give this another bump as rumors are circulating again about this topic. IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted September 17, 2002 12:33 PM
OK - not this year. But very likely in 2003. IP: Logged |
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TJW Member |
posted September 18, 2002 11:45 PM
During the DC Archives panel at the San Diego Con, Bob Wayne said the Neal Adams' Batman work will be collected, but he said they were trying to determine if it would be done in one or two books. My vote is two. He also said a Golden Age Spectre Archives is on tap for 2002. IP: Logged |
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TJW Member |
posted September 18, 2002 11:47 PM
Typo in previous reply. The Spectre it's for 2003. IP: Logged |
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NecessaryImpurity Member |
posted September 19, 2002 12:19 PM
quote: Sounds like the question is: "Do we reprint ALL of Adams' Batman, or just a 'Best of'?" IP: Logged |
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