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ck New Member |
posted November 10, 2002 09:51 PM
 
I already own the Baxter reprints for "Saga of Ra's Al Ghul", "Man-Bat", "Brave/Bold", as well as "Tales of the Demon", "Best Batman Stories" & "Best Joker Stories" TPBs i.e. around 90% of NA's batman stuff. I really like NA's batman, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to pay $100+ (?) just to have these in one collection. But if they include some non-NA batman issues, I might consider... IP: Logged |
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India Ink Member |
posted November 10, 2002 11:20 PM
To be perfectly honest, I still haven't bought the slipcases for GL/GA and Deadman. I'm not in any hurry to, since I own all the stories reprinted therein in some form already (all in Baxter form, some in the original issues, and others in yet other reprint collections). Likewise, I don't believe there's any Adams Batman material I don't already have in the original issues or reprints. So I can't say that I'll be in a hurry to buy these either (however, if they include JLofA 94, it will be a lot harder to resist the urge). But I'm glad to know that they're there to be had. I always have my eye out for a good deal on them. And if I ever won the lottery I know just what I would buy first. Still, I'm aware that there are folks out there, big nuts about Neal Adams fans, who will gladly spend top dollar for these slipcases, even though they probably have all the original titles in mint collection anyhow. And that's a good thing. It's those aristocratic moneyed collectors out there who subsidize our reprint passions. I've seen these guys. A guy who has about six mint copies of a certain issue of Green Lantern, and is still looking for more. Another real strange character I saw in a local shop the other week who spends hundreds of dollars at the drop of a hat for statues and other collectables (and this guy doesn't even know anything about comics, really, as the store clerks have to explain to him who the characters are that he's buying). Bless these angels. Without them there would be no collectable industry. Eventually a mere mortal like me just might be able to get a good deal on a slipcase. Or DC will eventually release a cheaper TPB version of the same. IP: Logged |
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Bob Greenberger Member |
posted November 11, 2002 09:33 AM
All three volumes are mapped out and they will chronologically reprint Neal's covers and stories from Batman, Detective, B&B, and World's Finest. Neal is looking over the material now so we can get new covers from him. He's also offered me use of unpublished cover sketches and little seen promo art. I'm working closely with Neal and his daughter Kris to make sure nothing is left out (okay, I'm leaving out JLA covers...). This should be a lot of fun for me to produce and it looks like it's being well received on the various message boards. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted November 11, 2002 10:08 AM
Thanks for the clarification, Bob. Will you skip the 2 Batman/Deadman team-ups, since they were recently in the Deadman slipcase? Also - since some of Neal's Batman work was part of multi-part tales, I take it we'll have some Irv Novick stories strategically placed as well? IP: Logged |
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Marty Raap Member |
posted November 11, 2002 02:04 PM
Since you're talking to Neal Adams, Mr. Greenberger, why not see if he'd do some new work for DC? I'd love to see some of these classic, older creators come back for the current comics, even if it's only for an issue or two. Heck, even a cover would be great! IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted November 12, 2002 05:14 AM
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trout New Member |
posted November 12, 2002 07:26 AM
Again, thanks for your time, Bob. I cannot express enough how much it means to get info straight from the source itself. You have an archive reader for life. Although most of you posters sound like you have these issues, or reprints of them, for a collector like myself who grew up after the Neal Adams era this is a great opportunity. I have one or two single issues, but that's it. I'm really excited about this collection. Sound like we will be getting promo material and sketches as well. A good package for all, if you ask me. Finally, I also would love to see Mr. Adams do some new work. But I'll content myself with this package until then. -Brian IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted November 18, 2002 04:47 PM
OK - so we're getting a "complete Neal Adams" collection. Not what I envisioned - I would've liked to see some other non-NA work included to put his work into better context. Nonetheless - here's what I think we'll get in these 3 volumes: Volume 1 Detective 370 (12/67) (cover only)
Brave & the Bold 86 (10-11/69) 24 pages "You Can't Hide From a Deadman" (Batman/Deadman)
Detective 412 (6/71) (cover only) I'm a little light on the last volume, but I bet there's plenty of other promotional Adams illustrations from the '70s that could be included as well.
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India Ink Member |
posted November 18, 2002 06:37 PM
While this is a nice collection to have for the exclusive Adams Batman fans, I have to say I'm depressed. I'll probably not get this slipcase when it comes out or any time soon (although it will be one of those someday purchases for me). If one volume contained a complete collection of all the Ra's al Ghul stories and related tales, then I would be disposed to get the thing. Right now I have all the stories, but not all in one volume. I have to go from trade paperback to original issue to trade paperback to original to read all of them in chronological order. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but the attraction of a collected volume is in its convenience. With the slipcase I still wouldn't have any more convenience than what I have now. I still would have to pull out original issues or consult the Tales of the Demon TPB. The one story that got interested in all of this wasn't a Batman or Detective issue--it was Justice League of America no. 94--"Where Strikes Demonfang." I then picked up Batman 232 (in perfect condition for half-price), 235, and Detective 411. So for me JLofA is the book that got me interested in the Ra's al Ghul story and in Neal Adams, and it's the book that got me reading Batman again (after a hiatus of a few years). It would at least be good if they would reprint the five Adams pages from that JLofA ish. Which, if memory serves, feature the Sensei, Deadman, and Batman. Those pages, in chronological order, would fit either at the end of volume 2 or near the beginning of volume 3 in Osgood's map. As it stands now, I feel I would be better off spending my money on the back issues I don't have (like Detective 400). IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted November 18, 2002 07:32 PM
I'm guessing that we don't see JLA 94 - given the stated omission of JLA covers, and just a gut feeling that they don't see that as a "Batman" feature. That story should have at least made it into the Deadman collection IMO. It was odd that they included the Challs with Deadman, with the Adams pages inserted into a Tuska story -but not Demonfang, with a similar scenario. The other thing Demonfang has against it, I suppose, is the ongoing subplots - IIRC, Friedrich set the stage for the next 2 JLA issues - the Johnny Dune and Starbreaker intro - in that story, which may make it appear incomplete if reprinted alone. We'll probably have to wait until JLA Archives volume 11 for it to get its day in the sun.
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Pig Iron Member |
posted November 19, 2002 01:09 AM
I will be on these so fast I'll look Carmine Infantino's Flash.... I'm guessing the $30..00 -40.00 range for these each since it's not an Archive. But I'd pay $50.00. IP: Logged |
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Pig Iron Member |
posted November 19, 2002 01:11 AM
"Look like" ...edit function needed badly. IP: Logged |
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gothcityfan Member |
posted December 21, 2002 07:50 PM
Whats a baxter reprint every1 keeps mentioning? Im assuming from what ive seen that they were early tpb's of the 80's. IP: Logged |
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Peter Svensson Member |
posted December 21, 2002 08:01 PM
Not really. DC in the 1980s did some comics on higher quality Baxter Paper. Some of those comics were reprints of older ones, some were new (at the time). IP: Logged |
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gothcityfan Member |
posted December 23, 2002 08:25 PM
thnx IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted January 05, 2003 06:27 PM
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Outsider73 Member |
posted January 15, 2003 06:16 PM
I thought I'd give this thread a bump as well. I'm anxiously awaiting to here more news about this and have already started saving! I'm not sure if this was already covered, but will all three books be released together or are they going to spread out over the next year? IP: Logged |
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vze2 Member |
posted January 15, 2003 07:17 PM
As I recall, only one volume is coming out in 2003. I would assume this means that we will get another in 2004 and the final in 2005. IP: Logged |
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Bob Greenberger Member |
posted January 16, 2003 10:23 AM
Osgood's breakdown is pretty close to the actual contents with some tweaks. We're not omitting stories that appear in other collections, our goal here is to be as complete as possible. I have the intro and the first cover from Neal, just awaiting the color, and we'll figure out when to sneak it. He's been consulting with us and seems pretty happy with what we're doing. Look for an advance solicitation this spring and the book to be in store, barring dock strikes, in September. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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NecessaryImpurity Member |
posted February 24, 2003 03:25 PM
By way of BUMPing this thread (before Rob comes a-snipping), didn't Bob mention in one of his answers that Adams was tweaking some of the art? IP: Logged |
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Karl40 Member |
posted February 24, 2003 04:11 PM
If you go to nealadams.com, Adams talks a little about the new Bat-book... IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted March 18, 2003 09:26 AM
The first book has been advance-solicited for a September 3 release date: BATMAN ILLUSTRATED BY NEAL ADAMS Volume 1 Over the years, many artists have contributed to the look of one of the most iconic characters in popular culture: Batman. The most influential and popular may be Neal Adams, who in the late 1960s put the Dark Knight back in the shadows and updated his image for a new generation of fans. Now, for the first time, all of Neal Adams’s Batman work — covers and stories — is being chronologically collected in three volumes, the first of which debuts in September! BATMAN ILLUSTRATED BY NEAL ADAMS Volume 1 is an extraordinary 240-page hardcover featuring Adams’s contributions from 1967 through 1969, showing the process of introduction, adaptation, and innovation that the young artist brought to this legendary crime—fighter. Along the way, Adams also illustrates many other DC heroes, including Superman, The Flash, Aquaman, and The Teen Titans, as well as his signature character, Deadman. When Adams burst onto the scene in the 1960s, his sense of design, color and realism not only helped influence a generation of artists and excited fans, and also inspired many writers to new heights of creativity — including Bob Haney and other writers showcased in Volume 1. Adams provides a new cover and introduction, and has gone back to tweak some of his early art and re-color five of the eight stories presented here. Volume 1 reprints material from BATMAN #200, 203 and 210; THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD #75-76 and 79-85; DETECTIVE COMICS #370, 372, 385, 389, 391, and 392; and WORLD’S FINEST COMICS #174-176, 178-180, 182-183, 185, and 186. BATMAN ILLUSTRATED BY NEAL ADAMS Volume 1 is a 240-page hardcover, advance-solicited for release in comic-book stores September 3 with a cover price of $49.95 U.S.
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mcmaenza Member |
posted March 18, 2003 11:17 AM
The solicitation says eight stories but according to the earlier breakdown, isn't there nine tales in here total? ------------------ 5 Earths Project - Earth-1 IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted March 19, 2003 07:30 PM
There are nine stories. The solicitation was incorrect. IP: Logged |
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Joe Pacheco Member |
posted March 19, 2003 08:56 PM
Any opinions on Adams restoring and recoloring the art? I have mised feelings whenever I see restored or recut editions, whether it's film, music or comics. For example, I loved ST:TMP but HATED the Han/Greedo scene in Star Wars. Did Superman really need the Fire/Ice scene? Sometimes I think it's more about ego than anything else. Is Neal Adams 2000 really the right collaborator for Neal Adams 1970? Think of the music the Rolling Stones were making in 1970 compared to now. How about 1940's Kirby compared to 1970's Kirby. Hopefully the main fixes will be letter balloon placement and not a full scale inking. The coloring really bothers me esp. since it won't be consistant throughout the book. I guess I wanted a definitive collection of classic comics and instead I'm getting new product that uses old comics as a starting point. Joe IP: Logged |
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