posted April 18, 2003 04:47 PM            

And yes, you can use this on the Archives site.
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MR. AND MRS. SUPERMAN ARCHIVES VOL. 1 (259/272 pages)
Written by E. Nelson Bridwell and Cary Bates (early issues) art by Kurt
Schaffenberger and Curt Swan (early issues).
ACTION COMICS #484, SUPERMAN #327,329, SUPERMAN FAMILY #195-196,198-199,201-222

Action Comics #484 (June 1978)
"Superman Takes a Wife" (22 pages + cover + 1 pg. text feature)

Superman #327 (September 1978)
"Two Can Die as Cheaply as One" (8 pages (?))

Superman #329 (November 1978)
"Secret of the Talking Car" (8 pages)

Superman Family #195 (May/June 1979)
8 pages (?)

Superman Family #196 (July/August 1979)
"Editor of the Star" (8 pages)

Superman Family #198 (November/December 1979)
"The Leaning Tower of Metropolis" (8 pages)

Superman Family #199 (January/February 1980)
"Susie's Flying Saucer" (8 pages)

Superman Family #201 (May/June 1980)
"The Enigma of the Empty Elevator" (8 pages)

Superman Family #202 (July/August 1980)
"The Man who Discovered Kryptonite" (8 pages)

Superman Family #203 (September/October 1980)
"The Critic Killer" (8 pages)

Superman Family #204 (November/December 1980)
"The Rescue of His Majesty, Johnny Thunder" (8 pages)

Superman Family #205 (January/February 1981)
"Catch a Falling Star" (8 pages)

Superman Family #206 (March/April 1981)
"Hostage of the Harlequin" (8 pages)

Superman Family #207 (May/June 1981)
"The Turnabout Powers" (8 pages)

Superman Family #208 (July 1981)
"The 5th Dimensional Hijack!" (8 pages)

Superman Family #209 (August 1981)
"George Taylor's Last Scoop" (8 pages)

Superman Family #210 (September 1981)
"The Magical Manhunters of Metropolis" (8 pages + cover)

Superman Family #211 (October 1981)
"The Kill Kent Contract" (8 pages)

Superman Family #212 (November 1981)
"The Great Superman Hoax" (8 pages)

Superman Family #213 (December 1981)
"Queen of the Insect World" (8 pages + cover)

Superman Family #214 (January 1982)
"Horde of the Insect Queen" (8 pages)

Superman Family #215 (February 1982)
"Beware the Ultra-Ant" (8 pages)

Superman Family #216 (March 1982)
"Who's Superman?" (8 pages)

Superman Family #217 (April 1982)
"Back to Square 1" (12 pages + cover)

Superman Family #218 (May 1982)
"Kryptonite-Mare!" (9 pages)

Superman Family #219 (June 1982)
"Paper Tiger!" (9 pages)

Superman Family #220 (July 1982)
"Where Off Earth are You From?" (9 pages)

Superman Family #221 (August 1982)
"Arrows of Vengeance" (9 pages)

posted April 18, 2003 10:49 PM               

Joe, it's the adventures of the Earth-2 Superman who is married to his Lois Lane. I haven't read more than one or two and that was years ago. Luckily, I have an issue of Superman Family in one of my (many) stacks of unread comics. One thing I just could never get past was that odd "S" shield. They should have either done the primitive version of the current one (seen around '41) or the original triangle. Not the 6 sided "thing" they had. When I first saw it (with a friend), neither of us could even tell it was an "S!"

-Steve

posted April 19, 2003 12:38 AM               

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Originally posted by srca1941:
One thing I just could never get past was that odd "S" shield. They should have either done the primitive version of the current one (seen around '41) or the original triangle. Not the 6 sided "thing" they had. When I first saw it (with a friend), neither of us could even tell it was an "S!"

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posted April 19, 2003 03:13 AM               

It was a confusing series, set in the 1950s. The stories were silly, and other than the odd "S" and little things (like George Taylor instead of Perry White) most of the stories could have been told in modern tales.

I think it was the worst feature in the book, every story was a compromise, how lucky Superman was to have Lois, and how cute Lois was (ala Lucy Ricardo).

I'd rather have a Krypto, or even a Nightwing and Flamebird archive, they were more innovative and original than this stuff.

posted April 19, 2003 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Chuckster2:
The only probelm with the map is a few times it was the cover feature of The Superman Family and those covers should be included.

I just do not know which they were or how many. I just remember seeing them on the stands.

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posted April 19, 2003 05:11 PM            

The seventies however had to be oh so correct and make Lois look like a woman of her time. Even when Schaffenberger drew her, she still had to look "acceptable" for the seventies.

The beauty of the Mr. & Mrs. Superman series, with its 1950s timeframe, was that Kurt could draw Lois the way he was meant to draw her. Cute hair-do and everything.

Of course, ideally, Schaffenberger would have inked his own pencils. So it wasn't pure smack. It was diluted smack. But it still got you high. So why complain.

posted April 19, 2003 08:38 PM               

I had nearly every issue of Superman Family, but when I later thinned out the herd, not a single one made the cut.

posted April 20, 2003 08:08 PM               

I don't think think the 6-sided S-shield ever appeared in the comics before. It is different than any previous shield because these stories represent the jumping-off point for the hitherto unchronicled adventures of the Earth-2 Superman. So the actual Superman stories of 1938-1952 or whenever were the Earth-2 Superman, but these stories pick up where those left off---so they imagine an alternate evolution of the character--including a "new" 1950s shield.

These stories were great! They provided an Earth-2 Lana Lang, an Earth-2 Lana Lang as Insect Queen (obviously an adult Insect Queen, not the Earth-1 teenager who became an honorary Legionaire), a picture of the marriage of the Earth-2 Batman and Catwoman (it was during that trip to Gotham City that a contract on the life of Harvey KENT--the reformed Earth-2 Two-face--was confused as a contract on the life of Clark Kent), and an appearance of Green Lantern, Sportsmaster, and Harlequin, plus the first appearance since the Golden Age of the Ultra-Humanite (with brain still in the body of Delores Winters--and in this story transplanted into a giant, mutant ant).

posted April 20, 2003 09:00 PM               

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"One has no right to love or hate anything if one has not aquired a knowledge of its nature" - Leonardo da Vinci

posted April 20, 2003 09:22 PM               

I never liked the idea of them being married, and the current Superman series, as well as the Mr. and Mrs. Superman series, prove that the idea was never a good one.

Reklen

posted April 20, 2003 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by REKLEN:
Why was Mr. and Mrs. Superman set in the 50s, if it was Earth-2, it should have been set in the early forties, and Lois should have looked like she did in the Superman cartoons.

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Um, because if it was set in the 40s, then they wouldn't have been married, then it couldn't be called "Mr. and Mrs. Superman". The whole point of it being as different as possible to regular Earth-One continuity would have been lost.
I like Superman marrying Lois Lane. Their late 30s [which is, after all, when they did get married] is too late and 15+ years is too long to have known each other to piss about any long. Kudos to Kal and Lois for making the commitment, acting realistically and like adults, rather than engaging in years and years of avoiding each other, like in "real" continuity [Another byzantine plan to get out of hooking up with a beautiful, resourceful woman who loves you? What's wrong with you, man? ].

I just wish they'd have married, Earth-1 style, when Clarkie and Lois got together, c. 1976! Well, maybe not!;]

posted April 21, 2003 06:35 PM            

The Mr. and Mrs. Superman stories were a solution to the problem raised in 1976-78, re: Lois and Clark. Jerry Siegel himself suggested at that time that if the two had to marry it should be done as a parallel reality kind of story while at the same time the other Superman stories kept with the regular continuity.

posted April 21, 2003 07:09 PM            

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Originally posted by India Ink:
My own feeling is that Lois and Clark should have just kept sleeping together as they had been doing. Here's the arrangement that they had circa 1977--she knows Clark is Superman but she's not supposed to say this and she's supposed to keep up the pretence that she doesn't know, in return Clark keeps sleeping with her, and they never talk about marriage. And nobody tells the comics code what Lane and Kent are up to between the panels.

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Alas, the timing was all wrong. Had this happened 5 years later, maybe a Superman book would have joined the Legion and the Titans as direct sales pioneers, and this relationship, freed of the CCA, could have been explored in the pages of such a magazine.

posted April 23, 2003 08:37 AM               

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Originally posted by arromdee:
Are you sure about issue 195? The Superman Family covers are at http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/gallery/superman-family-comics.html
and the cover for issue 195 mentions Mr. and Mrs. Superman.

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posted April 23, 2003 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Owen Cardiff Darcy:
The GCD says it doesn't have one. Maybe the cover blurb is a mistake. (Unfortunately, I no longer have my Superman Family back issues.)

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