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GDL Member	posted March 04, 2003 12:55 PM Not counting the JSA members that already have an Archive or Announced Archive, if you had a choice, choose in order by number the JSA members that you would like to see in Archive form in order of importance to you: __ Sandman __ Hourman __ Johnny Thunder __ Scribbly/Red Tornado (Continuity be damned, I still say Ma was a member!!) __ Hawkman __ Dr. Fate __ Mr. Terrific __ Wildcat __ Atom ------------------ Proud member of Hal's Emerald Advancement Team Hal fans aren't going away...YOU "Get Over It"! Hal Jordan is Green Lantern, Jim Corrigan is The Spectre Also co-founder of the Golden age Sandman club/group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldenagesandman/ DEATH to the 90's Tinfoil Age Of Comics! Green Lantern 1940-1993 IP: Logged
GDL Member	posted March 04, 2003 12:59 PM My choices would be: 1. Sandman 5. Hourman 7. Johnny Thunder 2. Scribbly/Red Tornado (Continuity be damned, I still say Ma was a member) 3. Hawkman 4. Dr. Fate 8. Mr. Terrific 6. Wildcat 9. Atom IP: Logged
CMCINTYRE3600 Member	posted March 04, 2003 01:03 PM Ohh, good thread. Hmmm, in order of personal importance, here goes. _1_ Sandman _3_ Hourman _10_ Johnny Thunder (sorry Johnny) _9_ Scribbly/Red Tornado _2_ Hawkman _4_ Dr. Fate _7_ Mr. Terrific _6_ Wildcat _8_ Atom _5_ Dr. Mid-Nite (you forgot him... or does he have an announced Archive?) That's just my opinion IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted March 04, 2003 01:04 PM _2_ Sandman _5_ Hourman _8_ Johnny Thunder _7_ Scribbly/Red Tornado _1_ Hawkman _3_ Dr. Fate _9_ Mr. Terrific _4_ Wildcat _10_ Atom _6_ Dr.Mid-Nite You overlooked Dr.Mid-Nite, and I added him to the list. This is how I'd pick 'em at this moment--it could change in half an hour, but not radically. The characters fall into four groups, all of them internally pretty even: the first three, next two, next two, and bottom three. IP: Logged
outpost2 Member	posted March 04, 2003 01:15 PM My choices: 4. Sandman 5. Hourman 6. Johnny Thunder 1. Scribbly/Red Tornado 2. Hawkman 3. Dr. Fate 9. Mr. Terrific 7. Wildcat 10. Atom 8. Dr. Mid-Nite The first four I hope to see in the next two years. The last six could really come in any order, as long as we get one volume each. IP: Logged
NecessaryImpurity Member	posted March 04, 2003 01:15 PM I'm going to cheat a little. I have 3 co-leaders, meaning I want them #1, 2, and 3, in any order. JUST GET THEM DONE! After that, it's a little easier. 1 Dr. Fate 1 Hawkman 1 Sandman 4 Red Tornado 5 Hourman 6 Dr. Mid-Nite 7 Wildcat 8 Atom 9 Mr. Terrific 10 Johnny Thunder IP: Logged
Coleo Member	posted March 04, 2003 01:40 PM Dr. Fate Hawkman Sandman Hourman Wildcat Dr. Midnite Mr. Terrific Johnny Thunder Atom I eagerly await the first four; I'm mildly interested in Wildcat, based on the Millenium edition reprint of Sensation #1. I'd probably never buy the last four. And I really can't justify putting Scribbly/Red Tornado on this list. It deserves to be archived on its own merits, but it shouldn't be considered as a JSA tie-in strip based on a panel or two. Cole IP: Logged
jape Member	posted March 04, 2003 02:09 PM Ooohh, hard choice. 1__ Sandman 2__ Hourman 7__ Johnny Thunder 6__ Scribbly/Red Tornado 3__ Hawkman 4__ Dr. Fate 8__ Mr. Terrific 5__ Wildcat 9_ Atom If the Tornado sneaks in there, couldn't we make an allowance for the Star Spangled Kid too? He'd be above Mr Terrific and the Atom on my list. If I have to bet, I'd say we'll see Sandman, Hawkman, and Dr Fate first, then Hourman and Wildcat. IP: Logged
friend Member	posted March 04, 2003 02:09 PM I wouldn't buy any of these characters but I'll give you one name for the sake of a poll. Dr Fate. Because he's original - he's a mixture of Dr Strange and the Spectre... Friend. ------------------ http://www.freewebs.com/salamie63/index.htm IP: Logged
Bgztl Member	posted March 04, 2003 02:46 PM Well, I will be contrary -- to some anyway -- on the purely personal level that I don't like Wildcat and probably never will. Even if he was written by Bill Finger and drawn by Irwin Hasen. My ranking/list would look like this: 3. Sandman 5. Hourman 6. Johnny Thunder 4. Scribbly/Red Tornado 2. Hawkman 1. Dr. Fate 7. Mr. Terrific 10. Wildcat 8. Atom 9. Dr. Mid-Nite But 1, 2, 3, & 4 are very nearly tied in my mind. I have not read all the Hawkman or Scribbly/Red Tornado stories, but I have read some. I've also read all the Sandman and Dr. Fate stories. There's definitely gold in them thar hills. Sandman becomes a little tepid towards the end of his suit and hat days and Dr. Fate definitely dips in quality around about More Fun Comics # 80 or so. But both should have SOLID volume 1's. With Hourman, my enthusiasm definitely drops off precipitously. I've read all the Hourman stories now and only the first handful or so really grabbed me. Johnny Thunder's bizarre charms are amusing and I would buy the archive, but you can see where it starts to go downhill long before it starts to go UPhill IMO . I shall not rain on anyone else's parade! ------------------ Bgztl a/k/a Jack Holt *All of human wisdom is summed up in two words: wait* and hope.** --Alexandre Dumas IP: Logged
Lightning + Chemicals New Member	posted March 04, 2003 02:55 PM I'm not breaking radically new ground here.... 1. Sandman (based on my love of the excellent Sandman Mystery Theatre) 2. Hourman 3. Dr. Fate 4. Hawkman 5. Mr. Terrific (always intrigued by this character concept from the JLA/JSA cross-overs) 6. Scribbly/Red Tornado 7. Dr. MidNite 8. Wildcat 9. Atom 10. Johnny Thunder The rest of the board seems to order these similarly -- so far.... IP: Logged
srca1941 Member	posted March 04, 2003 03:13 PM I'd like to see DC start so many lines (let�s say 3) in a year for a few years and then, depending on how they do, see which ones warrant continuation (or at least immediate continuation). This way it gives fans of all of them at least 1 volume and will calm some of the impatient voices in the crowd (mine included). As for sales, I doubt any of them will do poorly (loose money), but some will surely be stronger sellers than others, and some are, sadly, likely just to break even. Year One: 1)Red Tornado 2)Hawkman 3)Sandman Year Two: 4)Hourman 5)Dr. Fate 6)Wildcat Year Three: 7)Atom 8)Mr. Terrific 9)Johnny Thunder Really, I want all of them, and I'm starting to warm up to Johnny Thunder more and more all of the time. I always liked him, but after reading my latest All-Star Archive (volume 4), I found myself looking forward to him getting at least 1 volume of his own. Then after this experiment is done, maybe move on to other neglected Golden Age properties (assuming that by now DC has released at least 1 volume of Superboy, Captain Marvel Jr., Green Arrow, and the SSoV in the time they were doing the JSA experiment, as well as come up with good tech for restoring "fine line" artists' work): Year Four: 10)Doll Man 11)Guardian and the Newsboy Legion 12)Johnny Quick Year Five: 13)GA Aquaman 14)Bulletman 15)The Ray Year Six: 16)Liberty Belle 17)Spy Smasher 18)Uncle Sam Year Seven: 19)Robotman 20)Mary Marvel 21)Black Condor Year Eight: 22)Boy Commandos 23)Mr. Scarlet 24)Phantom Lady Year Nine: 25)Ibis 26)Manhunter (Quality) 27)Manhunter (DC) Year Ten: 28)Quicksilver (Max Mercury) 29)Star-Spangled Kid 30)Minute Man Just 10 years with three new lines, and we get most of the best of the Golden Age at least started. Not bad, some of these lines may not see a volume two, and many of the Quality features would only need 2 or 3 books to complete the run, so why not start? -Steve ------------------ Visit "The Golden Years" http://www.goldenyears.cjb.net My "Future Archives" Page: http://www.dcarchives.cjb.net IP: Logged
GDL Member	posted March 04, 2003 03:24 PM Thanks for the replies, and the additions/corrections...I can't believe I forgot Hooty's perch!!! IP: Logged
Duglis Member	posted March 04, 2003 04:15 PM I would just like to see the GA Hawkman archive and the GA Dr. Fate archive Doug IP: Logged
Marty Raap Member	posted March 04, 2003 04:57 PM I'd like them all but, if forced to prioritize, I'd go: 1. Dr. Fate. It's kind of cool that he faces his arch-nemesis Wotan in the first issue, a villain still around today. 2. Sandman. With the success of the Gaiman Sandman, and following up on "Sandman Mystery Theatre," it's hard for me to believe this hasn't been done yet. Plus, you've got to like the gas mask and the later Kirby stuff. 3. Hawkman. Always enjoyed the reprints I've read. As far as I can tell, it often seems more like pulp stories than super-hero comics. 4. Johnny Thunder. Goofy charm, and tied in enough to the JSA to appeal to the super-hero fan in me. 5. Wildcat. You'd think they'd have reached a character active in modern continuity before this. 6. Hourman. Not as active as Wildcat, but his presence is certainly still being felt. 7. Dr. Mid-Nite. A pretty distinct character, especially for its time, with the blind super-hero angle. 8. Atom. The last of the core JSA group in my view. 9. Mr. Terrific. I always get the impression this character has really been developed more in modern times than he even was in the GA. I'd be interested in seeing it, though. 10. Scribbly/Red Tornado. Sorry, this type of humor comic just doesn't cut it for me. I'm probably give the first volume a try with an open mind, though. I find I don't worry too much about creators when making lists like this. I focus more on the characters themselves. As these characters pass through so many hands over the years, that's one of the reasons I find the completeness of the Archive program so valuable -- I don't want to just read Kirby Sandman, say, but to see everything about the character, in all incarnations under all creative hands over the years. IP: Logged
JoeAnkenbauer Member	posted March 04, 2003 04:59 PM quote: Originally posted by GDL: Not counting the JSA members that already have an Archive or Announced Archive, if you had a choice, choose in order by number the JSA members that you would like to see in Archive form in order of importance to you: 1) Sandman 2) Hourman 3) Dr. Midnite - not listed, but oh well... 4) Dr. Fate 5) Hawkman 6) Mr. Terrific 7) Atom 8) Wildcat 9) Johnny Thunder 10) Scribbly/Red Tornado JMA IP: Logged
hourman! Member	posted March 04, 2003 05:02 PM _3_ Sandman _1_ Hourman _9_ Johnny Thunder _10_ Scribbly/Red Tornado _7_ Hawkman _5- Dr. Fate _4_ Mr. Terrific _6_ Wildcat _8_ Atom _2_ Dr. Mid-Nite ------------------ it's time to kick butt for an hour IP: Logged
Aparofan New Member	posted March 04, 2003 05:43 PM Hawkman Sandman Dr. Mid-Nite Atom Dr. Fate Hourman Wildcat Mr. Terrific Johnny Thunder Scribbly/Red Tornado IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted March 04, 2003 06:02 PM 1. Dr. Fate - see 2/3 for reasoning 2/3. Hawkman/Sandman - no particular order Hawkman would be number 1 except that I can see Hawkman in All-Star, JSA, and his own series. Dr. Fate just edges out Sandman. I wouldn't complain about any order for the top 4. Hourman - underrated from the few examples I've seen. 5. Wildcat - cool character who hasn't been reprinted enough. 6. Johnny Thunder - Johnny's incompetence keeps him from having a higher slot. I enjoy humor, but I think JSA members should have some brains. 7. Scribbly/Red Tornado - If I'm in control, Scribbly starts from the beginning, before the Red Tornado. If I'm making the entire schedule, Scribbly is much higher because of its quality and variety. However, as a JSA character, she's low on my list. 8. Atom - By far the worst chapters in All-Star as far as I'm concerned. 9. Mr. Terrific - I don't believe I've ever seen any GA stories, but I don't have the heart to put Mr. Terrific above an original member (Atom) who appeared in every issue(or almost every, I don't remember) IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted March 04, 2003 06:04 PM 3.5 Dr. Mid-Nite - one of my favorite characters IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted March 04, 2003 06:26 PM quote: Originally posted by vze2: 2/3. Hawkman/Sandman - no particular order Hawkman would be number 1 except that I can see Hawkman in All-Star, JSA, and his own series. Dr. Fate just edges out Sandman. I wouldn't complain about any order for the top any order for the top 3 IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted March 04, 2003 06:35 PM The score so far: I included everyone's responses, which is probably statistically unsound, but here's the order and the average placement. Sandman 2 Hawkman 2.6 Dr. Fate 2.8 Hourman 4 Dr. Mid-Nite 5 Scribbly/Red Tornado 6.2 Wildcat 6.4 Mr. Terrific 7.6 Johnny Thunder 7.9 Atom 8.2 IP: Logged
Pig Iron Member	posted March 04, 2003 06:41 PM quote: Originally posted by GDL: 1__ Dr Mid-Nite 5__ Sandman 3__ Hourman 9__ Johnny Thunder 10__ Scribbly/Red Tornado (Continuity be damned, I still say Ma was a member!!) 2__ Hawkman 4__ Dr. Fate 8__ Mr. Terrific 7__ Wildcat 6__ Atom IP: Logged
Steven Utley Member	posted March 04, 2003 07:12 PM Hawkman tops my list, with Doctor Fate and Sandman tied for second place. After that, I've no particular favorites because I have no expectations of seeing the other Justice Society members in Archive editions of their own. I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised, mind you, but unwilling to hold my breath while waiting to be pleasantly surprised. IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted March 04, 2003 07:17 PM I actually think there's a reasonable chance of seeing the middle group--Hourman, Wildcat and maybe Dr.Mid-Nite, after a few years. But I agree that the top 3 are the only real high probability candidates. IP: Logged

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