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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 13, 2001 04:49 PM
 
This thread is copied directly from one I launched on the JSA message boards as a complement to the DC Archive threads there. It seems appropriate here as well. I have stated on numerous occasions that I love the DC Archives but also wish that DC would resurrect its "Greatest Stories Ever Told" anthology series. The stars of the DC line are deservedly enshrined in hardcover volumes -- but the "Greatest Stories" books, published during the late 1980s and early '90s, are the only place where worthy supporting players such as Sheldon Mayer's Scribbly, Jimmy Thompson's Robotman, and Ramona Fradon's Aquaman received their due. I rejoice at the prospect of having, eventually, all of the original, authentic Justice Society of America stories from ALL-STAR COMICS. There is room on my bookshelf, however, and in my heart for the also-rans. Some "Greatest Stories" anthologies I'd like to see: THE GREATEST AQUAMAN STORIES EVER TOLD Also: ADVENTURES ON OTHER WORLDS IP: Logged |
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Cave Carson Member |
posted September 13, 2001 06:41 PM
That post just reminded me of how much I loved those 100 page spectaculars when I was just a wee lil Cave. It was the only way a small town kid could get a look at the Golden Age material. I looked forward to these specials intensely (the Simon and Kirby reprints in the back of the 4th world books contributed to this a LOT  )It's been a lot of fun seeing them make a tentative comeback lately, the JSA issue being a personal favorite. Hopefully DC will put out a few more of these (quarterly?) ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Osgood Peabody Member |
posted September 14, 2001 10:17 PM
My all-time favorite anthology was the Greatest Golden Age stories ever told. If it was up to me, I would just make this an ongoing series (like an Archive line), and come out with a new volume every year. This would be a great showcase for all of the second-stringers that will never see a mainstream archive line. IP: Logged |
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The Philippine Eagle Member |
posted September 14, 2001 10:36 PM
I could go for that. They could also serve as testing grounds for potential archives lines. First up (IMO) should be: Green Arrow But I would love the GA FLash and GA Green Lantern to get Greatest Stories ever told treatment. IP: Logged |
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Carsda Member |
posted September 17, 2001 10:56 AM
does anyone know why the Greatest Golden Age stories ever told was never reprinted in softcover? all the other ones were. since i was collecting these in softcover, i'm rather bummed. IP: Logged |
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positronic Member |
posted September 18, 2001 02:51 AM
re: Steve's suggestion for a GREATEST SECRET ORIGIN STORIES EVER TOLD -- I hadn't really thought about it, but despite DC's facsimile reprints of the first two SECRET ORIGINS 80-PAGE GIANTs, DC hasn't really had a Secret Origins book collection available(excepting a thin-ish softback with ordinary newsprint guts, reprinting some "retold" origins of the JLA members from the late '80s) since the original SECRET ORIGINS OF THE SUPER DC HEROES from the '70s. It seems long overdue for DC to redress this situation. I would suggest, not a single volume, but a series of volumes: THE GREATEST SECRET ORIGINS OF THE 1930s & 1940s, THE GREATEST SECRET ORIGINS OF THE 1950s & 1960s, and THE GREATEST SECRET ORIGINS OF THE 1970s & 1980s. That way, we'd be much more likely to see some of the obscurities that have seldom been reprinted, and each generation of fans would get to see their favorites represented. IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 21, 2001 04:22 AM
This is what I[/] would put into a volume of [i]The Greatest Secret Origin Stories Ever Told: The Spectre (pts. 1 and 2), More Fun Comics #s 52 and 53 (Feb. and March, 1940), by Jerry Siegel and Bernard Bailey Doctor Fate, More Fun Comics # 67, by Gardner Fox and Howard Sherman The Newsboy Legion and The Guardian, Star Spangled Comics # 7 April 1942), by Jack Kirby and Joe Simon Kid Eternity, Hit Comics # 25 (Dec. 1942), with art by Sheldon Moldoff The Marvel Family, "The Mighty Marvels Join Forces," The Marvel Family # 1 (Dec. 1945), by Otto Binder and Pete Costanza Aquaman, "How Aquaman Got His Powers," Adventure Comics # 260 (May 1959), with art by Ramona Fradon The Viking Prince, The Brave and the Bold # ? (1959), by Robert Kanigher and Joe Kubert Batman, "The Second Life of Batman," Batman # 127 (Oct. 1959), with art by Dick Sprang (and guest-starring Superman!) The Green Arrow, "The World's Worst Archer," Adventure Comics # ? (1959), with art by Lee Elias -- the best of the several Speedy origins Superboy, "The Origin of the Superman-Batman Team," Adventure Comics # 275 (Aug. 1960), with art by George Papp The Doom Patrol, "The Incredible Origin of The Chief," The Doom Patrol # 88 (June 1964), by Arnold Drake and Bruno Premiani Green Lantern, "The Secret Origin of The Guardians," Green Lantern # 40 (Oct. 1965), by John Broome, Gil Kane, and Sid Greene Animal Man, "The Man With Animal Powers," Strange Adventures # 180 (date?), with art by Carmine Infantino and George Roussos The New Gods, "The Pact," The New Gods # 7 (Feb.-March 1972), by Jack Kirby and Mike Royer Batman, "If Bruce Wayne Had Not Become The Batman," Batman # 256 (May-June 1974), by ? Teen Titans, "Who is Donna Troy?" The New Teen Titans # 38 (Jan. 1984), by Marv Wolfman, George Perez, and Romeo Tanghal J'onn J'onzz, "Martian Manhunter," Secret Origins # 35 (1985), by Mark Verheiden and Ken Steacy IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 28, 2001 05:34 PM
Hey Kids! Howzabout a second volume of THE GREATEST TEAM-UP STORIES EVER TOLD? Here are some truly off-beat ones: Hawkman, "The Flaming Curse," featuring (er ah um) The World's Most Famous Consulting Detective (Ret.), FLASH COMICS # 69 (Feb.-March 1946), with art by Joe Kubert. Superboy, "Superboy Meets Superman," SUPERBOY # 47 (March 1956), by Otto Binder, Curt Swan, and George Klein. Superboy, "Superboy Meets The Young Green Arrow," ADVENTURE COMICS # 258 (March 1959), with art by George Papp. The Green Arrow, "The Case of the Vanishing Arrows," featuring ... well, that would be telling ... ADVENTURE COMICS # 266 (Nov. 1959), with art by Lee Elias. Lois Lane, "The Irresistible Lois Lane," featuring The Justice League of America (and the byzantine Plan L), SUPERMAN'S GIRL FRIEND, LOIS LANE # 29 (Nov. 1961), with art by Curt Swan. Adam Strange, "The Wizard of the Cosmos," with art by Lee Elias, and The Space Ranger, "The Return of Yarrok of Zulkan," MYSTERY IN SPACE # 98 (March 1965), with art by Howard Sherman. Batman, "The Secret War of the Phantom General," featuring The Elongated Man, DETECTIVE COMICS # 343 (Sept. 1965), by John Broome, Carmine Infantino, and Joe Giella. The Flash, "The One-Man Justice League," featuring ... oh, it's too complicated to explain here ... THE FLASH # 158 (Feb. 1966), with art by Carmine Infantino and Joe Giella. The Elongated Man, "Green Lantern's Power Blackout," DETECTIVE COMICS # 250 (April 1966), with art by Carmine Infantino. Supergirl, "The Anti-Supergirl Plot," featuring The Justice League of America, ACTION COMICS # 350 (May 1967), by Leo Dorfman and Jim Mooney. Jimmy Olsen, "Jimmy Olsen, Boy Wonder," featuring Batman and Whatsisname, SUPERMAN'S PAL JIMMY OLSEN # 111 (June 1968), by Cary Bates and Pete Costanza. Wonder Woman, "Wish Upon a Star," featuring Green Lantern, WONDER WOMAN # 214 (Oct.-Nov. 1974), by Elliot S! Maggin, Curt Swan, and Phil Zupa. Rex, "Whatever Happened to Rex the Wonder Dog," featuring Bobo the Detective Chimp, DC COMICS PRESENTS # 35 (July 1981), by Mike Tiefenbacher and Gil Kane. All this just to avoid writing bump. IP: Logged |
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superboy1988-92 Member |
posted September 29, 2001 04:06 AM
I think its obvious that the DC Archive series replaced the Greatest Stories Ever Told series. This is a shame. I think that both series can co-exist together. I could have sworn that DC had intentions to publish a Greatest 1960s Stories Ever Told in the early 1990s but it never happened. I think it was planned as either a two volume slipcase set in trade paperback or hardcover. IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 29, 2001 01:00 PM
Howdy, superboy1988-92, and welcome. 'Tis a pity about THE GREATEST 1960s STORIES EVER TOLD -- DC announced it, assembled it as a slipcased set containing two trade paperbacks, had covers done up (one of 'em by Nick Cardy), ran ads for it. And cancelled it at virtually the last moment. Still, it doesn't cost us anything to wish, and there's always the chance that someone at DC will notice and decide that there is a market for anthologies of old material. IP: Logged |
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Cave Carson Member |
posted September 29, 2001 08:51 PM
As glad as I was to see Kirby's 4th world books in collected form, it's still a disappointment that they were in black-and-white. Especially when you can pick up a trade paperback of barely year old Superman stories on nicer paper and full color to boot. Wouldn't it be nice to see the Ditko material collected like this? Creeper-Hawk and Dove-Blue Beetle. The full run of any of these would fit nicely in a trade. IP: Logged |
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kdu Member |
posted September 30, 2001 12:32 AM
I would buy the 4th World books if they were in color. Has anyone been keeping up with Marvel's 100 greatest list/reprints? This makes me think shuch thing should not be open to total democracy. Every other one is an X title (well, except of course this week, they were only 2 for 9). Event the Blob's first appearance is considered one of the greatest! IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 30, 2001 09:39 PM
I'm with you fellows: the "Fourth Worth" material (including Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen) deserves better than the black-and-white reprints. Steve Ditko's Creeper and The Hawk and The Dove would be nice to have in book form, too, and Howie Post's Anthro, Nick Cardy's Bat Lash, and especially E. Nelson Bridwell's The Inferior Five. But I'm not going to hold my breath. IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted October 03, 2001 08:50 PM
And now (fanfare) my pet trade-paperback wish-list item ... Dinosaur Comics! The following list of dinosaur-infested stories by no means exhausts the genre; even Peter Porkchops and Professor Puptent encountered the critters. Additions are welcome. *** Batman, "Dinosaur Island," Batman # 35 (June-July 1946), by Bill Finger and Dick Sprang. (Honorable mention: the very first Batman story I ever read was "Doom in Dinosaur Hall," in Detective Comics # 255, dated May 1958.) Captain Marvel, "The Perplexing Past Puzzle," Captain Marvel Adventures # 135 (Aug. 1952) Rex, "Rex -- Dinosaur Destroyer," The Adventures of Rex the Wonder Dog # 11 (Sept.-Oct. 1953), with art by Gil Kane. Aquaman, "The Ocean of 1,000,000 B.C.," Adventure Comics # 253 (Oct. 1958), with art by Ramona Fradon. (Honorable mention: "Chasing One's Tail," Aquaman # 11, dated Oct. 1992, by Shaun McLAughlin, Ken Hooper, and Bob Dvorak.) The Viking Prince, "Monster of the Viking Sea," The Brave and The Bold # ? by Robert Kanigher and Joe Kubert. Wonder Woman, "Eagle of Space," Wonder Woman # 105 (April 1959), by Robert Kanigher, Ross Andru, and Mike Esposito. (Honorable mention: the very first Wonder Woman story I ever read was "The Runaway Time Express," in issue # 97, dated April 1958, the cover of which depicted our heroine lassoing a tyrannosaur.) Rip Hunter, "The Prisoners of 100 Million B.C.," Showcase # 20 (May- June 1959), with art by Ruben Moreira. Blackhawk, "The Time-Monsters," Blackhawk # 143 (Dec. 1959), with art by Dick Dillin and Charles Cuidera. The Green Arrow, "The Creature From the Crater," World's Finest Comics # 108 (March 1960), with art by Lee Elias. "Invasion of the Flying Reptiles," Strange Adventures # 121 (Oct. 1960), with art by Murphy Anderson. The Space Ranger, "The Dinosaurs of Space," Tales of the Unexpected # 54 (Oct. 1960), with art by Bob Brown. "We Tracked the Beast From the Deep," My Greatest Adventure # 50 (Dec. 1960), with art by George Roussos. "The Invisible Dinosaur," Strange Adventures # 133 (Oct. 1961), by Gardner Fox and Murphy Anderson. "Secret of the Dinosaur Skeleton," Strange Adventures # 139 (March 1962), by Gardner Fox, Gil Kane, and Joe Giella. "The Maze of Time," Strange Adventures # 159 (Dec. 1964), with art by Gil Kane. The War That Time Forgot, "Big House of Monsters," Star Spangled War Stories # 132 (April-May 1967), with art by Russ Heath. "Tall in the Saddle," Strange Sports Stories # 2 (Nov.-Dec. 1973), by Frank Robbins, Curt Swan, and Murphy Anderson. Captain Comet, "Danger: Dinosaurs at Large!" DC Special # 27 (April-May 1977), by Bob Rozakis, Rich Buckler, and Joe Rubenstein. Arak, "Dragon's Doom," Arak, Son of Thunder # 32 (April 1984), by Roy Thomas and Ron Randall. Superman, "Earth's Sister Planet," Action Comics # 576 (Feb. 1986), by William Woolfolk and Kurt Schaffenberger. IP: Logged |
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urfandc Member |
posted October 03, 2001 09:08 PM
i'll go with steven's list that'd be great, and i wish they'd just trash that assy ninja boy!IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted October 04, 2001 06:53 PM
Welcome to the DC message boards, urfandc ... but I must confess that I have no idea in hell what you mean when you say "i wish they'd just trash that assy ninja boy!" IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted October 04, 2001 11:28 PM
Interested newcomers can visit the original DC Archives thread at http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum18/HTML/004287.html. Hey, that's some of mine 'n' positronic's best material. IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted October 04, 2001 11:30 PM
Let's try that again. Bibbidy bobbidy boo! http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum18/HTML/004287.html IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted October 08, 2001 01:55 AM
Above and elsewhere, I have bemoaned the loss of The Greatest 1960s Stories Ever Told, which DC assembled and announced for publication in late 1991. This anthology was to comprise two slipcased trade paperbacks, but was cancelled at practically the last moment. What follows is two volumes' (about 420 pages') worth of top-of-the-line 1960s DC comics, arranged chronologically. I keenly regret not being able to squeeze in one of those terrific Dr. Fate/Hourman team-ups from Showcase, The Fox and the Crow, The Inferior Five, The Secret Six, etc., and invite sundry and all to submit their own lists. *** Adam Strange, "The Radioactive Menace," Mystery in Space # 64 (Dec. 1960), by Gardner Fox and Carmine Infantino. Aquaman, "The Sea Beasts from One Billion B.C.," Showcase # 31 (March-April 1961), with art by Nick Cardy. Justice League of America, "When Gravity Went Wild," Justice League of America # 3 (June-July 1961), by Gardner Fox, Mike Sekowsky, and Bernard Sachs. Sea Devils, "Secret of the Emerald Whale," Sea Devils # 1 (Sept.-Oct. 1961), with art by Russ Heath. Rip Hunter, "The Secret of the Ancient Seer," Rip Hunter ... Time Master # 6 (Jan.-Feb. 1962), with art by Alex Toth. The Flash, "Double Danger on Earth," The Flash # 129 (June 1962), by Gardner Fox, Carmine Infantino, and Joe Giella. Green Lantern, "Peril of the Yellow World," Green Lantern # 15 (Sept. 1962), with art by Gil Kane and Joe Giella. Challengers of the Unknown, "Four Roads to Doomsday," Challengers of the Unknown # 29 (Dec. 1962-Jan. 1963), with art by Bob Brown. The Atom, "Lockup in the Lethal Lightbulb," The Atom # 8 (Aug.-Sept. 1963), by Gardner Fox, Gil Kane, and Murphy Anderson. Wonder Woman, "Revolt of Wonder Woman," Wonder Woman # 144 (Feb. 1964), by Robert Kaniger, Ross Andru, and Mike Esposito. Eclipso, "The Man Who Destroyed Eclipso," House of Secrets # 65 (March-April 1964), with art by Alex Toth. Sugar and Spike, "Halloween Cats," Sugar and Spike # 61 (Oct.-Nov. 1964), by Sheldon Mayer. The Doom Patrol, "The Bride of the Doom Patrol," The Doom Patrol # 104 (June 1966), by Arnold Drake and Bruno Premiani. Superman, "The Four Element Enemies," Superman # 190 (Oct. 1966), by Jim Shooter and Wayne Boring. Supergirl, "The Anti-Supergirl Plot," Action Comics # 350 (May 1967), by Leo Dorfman and Jim Mooney. Superman and Batman, "The Executioner's List," World's Finest Comics # 171 (Nov. 1967), with art by Curt Swan. The Spectre, "Die, Spectre -- Again!" The Spectre # 2 (Jan.-Feb. 1968), by Gardner Fox and Neal Adams. Batman, "Hunt for a Robin-Killer," Detective Comics # 374 (April 1968), by Gardner Fox, Gil Kane, and Sid Greene. Blackhawk, "My Brother -- My Enemy," Blackhawk # 242 (Aug.-Sept. 1968), by Bob Haney, Marvin Wolfman, and Pat Boyette. Batman and Deadman, "The Track of the Hook," The Brave and the Bold # 79 (Aug.-Sept. 1968), by Bob Haney and Neal Adams. Teen Titans, "Stepping Stones for a Giant Killer," Teen Titans # 19 (Jan.-Feb. 1969), by Dick Giordano, Mike Friedrich, Gil Kane, and Wally Wood. Enemy Ace, "Reach for the Heavens," Star Spangled War Stories # 149 (Feb.-March 1969), by Robert Kanigher and Joe Kubert. IP: Logged |
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EvelynEustt unregistered |
posted October 08, 2001 11:04 AM
As conspicuously absent from the preceding list of 1960s material as "those terrific Dr. Fate/Hourman team-ups from Showcase, The Fox and the Crow, The Inferior Five, The Secret Six, etc.," are stories featuring The Legion of Super-Heroes, Superboy, Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Bat Lash, Anthro, Stanley and His Monster, Sgt. Rock, Capt. Storm, Johnny Cloud, The War That Time Forgot, The Atomic Knights, The Star Rovers, The Space Museum, The Space Ranger, Tomahawk, The Creeper, The Hawk and the Dove, The Elongated Man, Tommy Tomorrow, Cave Carson, Metal Men, Metamorpho, Angel and the Ape, and Animal Man. I wonder, could we possibly do The Greatest 1960s Stories Ever Told as a three-volume set? IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted October 08, 2001 06:03 PM
And Hawkman!  IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted October 09, 2001 11:58 AM
Is it safe to assume that everyone here has, or at least is aware of, The Essential Showcase, 1956-59, published during the 1990s? No? For those of you who missed it, it was a trade paperback reprinting in their entirely the first issue of Showcase, two each of the Flash and Challengers try-outs, and one each of the Adam Strange, Lois Lane, and Green Lantern issues. (But no Rip Hunter, @#%&$*! -- and issue # 20, which introduced Rip in a Ruben Moreira-illustrated story entitled "The Prisoners of 100 Million B.C.," is terrific.) I hoped against hope for a while that follow-up volumes were forthcoming. The 1960-64 edition would have included Sea Devils, Aquaman, The Atom, Metal Men, Cave Carson, and Tommy Tomorrow -- variously illustrated by Russ Heath, Ramona Fradon, Nick Cardy, Gil Kane and Murphy Anderson, Ross Andru and Mike Esposito, and Lee Elias. The 1965-69 edition would have served up the Dr. Fate/Hourman team, The Spectre, The Inferior Five, Enemy Ace, and Firehair, by artists Murphy Anderson, Joe Orlando and/or Mike Sekowsky, and Joe Kubert. IP: Logged |
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superboy1988-92 Member |
posted October 10, 2001 04:46 AM
Mr. Utley you're very knowledgeable on your comics history and specific stories by title. Maybe DC should hire you as a personel on the reprint materials department. Do you have any pics or evidence of the Nick Cardy cover for Greatest '60's Stories volumes? I'd like to see this. I've had a hard time trying to find the Essential Showcase volume. This is one book DC has chosen not to keep in print or to make a series out of. IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted October 10, 2001 04:29 PM
Thank you, superboy1988-92; I would absolutely love to compile reprint anthologies for DC -- and Marvel, too. I think I'm eminently qualified, being a funny-book aficianado and a compulsive list-maker. Might be a good way to meet girls, too. IP: Logged |
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Jim Gordon Member |
posted October 10, 2001 09:13 PM
quote: I saw the original oil painting Nick Cardy did for this project when he was in Charlotte one year. Also, it was featured as the cover to an early issue of COMIC BOOK ARTIST. Nick's covers are among the best ever! Jim IP: Logged |
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