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Karl40
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posted October 27, 2002 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karl40   Click Here to Email Karl40        Reply w/Quote
Yes. Evanier's POV site has a list of the aliases of various artists and writers from the Silver Age, and this is one of two used by Giacoia (Frankie Ray, of course, being the other).

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Steven Utley
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posted October 27, 2002 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven Utley        Reply w/Quote
I thought Frankie Ray was the guy who sang "I'm Just Walking in the Rain."

Frankie LEE and Judas Priest,
They were the best of friends ....

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James Friel
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posted October 27, 2002 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
That was Johny Ray.

Frankie Raye was an old girlfriend of the Human Torch's, though.

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James Friel
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posted October 27, 2002 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Johnny Ray.
Two "n"s

Say, when are we getting an edit function, Rob?

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dylanfan
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posted December 17, 2002 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Utley:
I thought Frankie Ray was the guy who sang "I'm Just Walking in the Rain."

Frankie LEE and Judas Priest,
They were the best of friends ....


Where the hell has Dylanfan been when references like this are being dropped?

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James Friel
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posted December 17, 2002 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
He's on the dark side of the road.
Or maybe out in front of a dozen dead oceans....

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Osgood Peabody
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posted January 30, 2003 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Osgood Peabody        Reply w/Quote
This venerable thread was teetering too close to the brink - so let me do the honors of reeling it back in.

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Steven Utley
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posted January 30, 2003 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven Utley        Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Osgood. Surely, folks, we can't have exhausted the subject.

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joeyfarout
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posted January 30, 2003 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joeyfarout        Reply w/Quote
HERE IS WHAT DC MUST ARCHIVE..DC PLEASE READ THIS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think they should focus on the 70's to the present, I'm sick of the baby boomers and pre-boom genertion and all their 1940's and 50's books. I dont' want to see Carmine Infantino's Batman.
Neal Adams DC stuff is amazing.
So was Jim Aparo.
So was Dick Dillin.
Mike Grell.
George Perez.

I know Dc is doing a Batman Neal Adams hardcover book so I'm quite happy.
Do a salute to Jim Aparo. Collect his best of Brave and Bold stuff. His Spectre was amazing. His Aquaman.
Dick Dillin's JLA was great.
Perez on Titans, he also did JLA too.
The 70's early 80's legion was great.
Swamp Thing.
Warlord.
JOHN BYRNES Superman!! Along with the other books put out like Jerry Ordways run on Superman.
JIM STARLINS writing on Batman was fantastic!!

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Mike Falcon
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posted January 30, 2003 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Falcon   Click Here to Email Mike Falcon        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by joeyfarout:
HERE IS WHAT DC MUST ARCHIVE..DC PLEASE READ THIS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think they should focus on the 70's to the present, I'm sick of the baby boomers and pre-boom genertion and all their 1940's and 50's books. I dont' want to see Carmine Infantino's Batman.
Neal Adams DC stuff is amazing.
So was Jim Aparo.
So was Dick Dillin.
Mike Grell.
George Perez.

I know Dc is doing a Batman Neal Adams hardcover book so I'm quite happy.
Do a salute to Jim Aparo. Collect his best of Brave and Bold stuff. His Spectre was amazing. His Aquaman.
Dick Dillin's JLA was great.
Perez on Titans, he also did JLA too.
The 70's early 80's legion was great.
Swamp Thing.
Warlord.
JOHN BYRNES Superman!! Along with the other books put out like Jerry Ordways run on Superman.
JIM STARLINS writing on Batman was fantastic!!



I agree with 200%! Breing on the 70's and 80's stuff! Enough of the Sixties! Bring on Firestorm and Jonah Hex!

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James Friel
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posted January 30, 2003 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Get in line. There's a lot of good older stuff to do yet.
Still, I like a lot of the comics you just mentioned--most of it in fact, and there's no reason most of it shouldn't be in trades right now, as far as I can see. I'd buy a lot of them.
But that material is in no danger of disappearing, since there's presumably camera-ready art in some form, if not actual film, for most or all of it. And it's plentiful in every shop in the country and online.
The 40's, '50s, and '60s material HAS to be preserved and restored as the top priority. That means that's where the DC Archives should focus. Of course, they have to make money while they do it, so their choices have to be commercial, and probably also have to be mixed with stuff like the '70s Legion and '80s Titans, and yeah, with more from that period no matter how recent it seems to some of us. But let's not lose focus here.The older stuff is more important to save, and will be until all of it that's going to be collected has been collected.

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Steven Utley
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posted January 31, 2003 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven Utley        Reply w/Quote
I think that comic-book books, both hard- and softbound, are the wave of the future, and that there are enough of us, young and old, to support both a line of Archive editions featuring older material (which, remember, must be reconstructed and issued in a format that pays the cost of reconstruction) and a line of less expensive (because less costly to produce) trade-paperback reprints of more recent stuff. I most certainly will buy another volume of Alan Moore's SWAMP THING as readily as another volume of ALL STAR COMICS ARCHIVES -- and I certainly will not begrudge anyone else his or her heart's desire, be it WARLORD, FIRESTORM, or anything else that isn't on my own wish list. I believe that, in the fullness of time, most of us will find ourselves mostly happy with our bookshelfloads of funnies.

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Gorilla covers are cool!
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posted February 01, 2003 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gorilla covers are cool!   Click Here to Email Gorilla covers are cool!        Reply w/Quote
MY TWO CENTS. (FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH!)
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In an other thread I listed my top 5 "Greatest Stories Ever Told" I would like to see as:

1) GREATEST WESTERN STORIES EVER TOLD (with as much Kane, Infantino and Toth you can cram in one book and maybe some Kubert's Firehair, the occasionnal Frazetta and Heath)

2) GREATEST MYSTERY STORIES EVER TOLD (with the best of the Orlando era of H.O.S. and H.O.M. from Wrightson, Adams, Toth, Kane Wood, etc.)

3) GREATEST STRANGE STORIES EVER TOLD (with the best of Julius Schwartz era of sci-fi by Kane, Infantino, etc.)

4) GREATEST WAR STORIES EVER TOLD (with a BIG bunch of stuff from the great Russ Heath, and some Kubert too, of course!)

5) GREATEST FUN STORIES EVER TOLD (not sure about the title, but it would cover the more humour oriented stuff in the DC vaults such as SCRIBBLY, SUGAR AND SPIKE, best of PLOP, the funny animal stuff, etc.)

You guys have made other excellent suggestions that makes me add to the list:

-> GREATEST APE STORIES EVER TOLD (with my Username how could I not buy the book? This one would actually bum all the others on my original list!)

-> GREATEST DINOSAUR STORIES EVER TOLD (you all made excellent suggestions for the contents)

-> GREATEST DETECTIVE STORIES EVER TOLD (as was suggested with mostly the non-superheroes detective like Jason Bard, Roy Raymond, Slam Bradley and a few pure-whodunnits Batman and Elongated-Man; it should include the Alan Davis drawn Batman & Sherlock Holmes team-up that was published a few years ago and the one where all the detectives of DC history meet up in the same story)

-> GREATEST ADVENTURE STORIES EVER TOLD (including stuff like Cave Carson, Sea Devils, Congo Bill, Rip Hunter, the original Suicide Squad, Secret Six and other non super-heroes adventurers)

-> GREATEST SWORD & SORCERY STORIES EVER TOLD (which would include all the Brave & the Bold early heroes like Silent Knight, Golden Gladiator, Viking Prince, Robin Hood, also Dtiko & Wood's Stalker, Wrightson's Nightmaster, Frazetta's Shining Knight, and maybe Kubert's Tor and Tarzan?)

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GreatBear
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posted February 01, 2003 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GreatBear   Click Here to Email GreatBear        Reply w/Quote
All great suggestions, Gorilla. DC has a wealth of quality 70's material that is never going to collected under the Archive imprint. I hope it comes back into print via TPB.

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Originally posted by Gorilla covers are cool!:
MY TWO CENTS. (FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH!)

1) GREATEST WESTERN STORIES EVER TOLD (with as much Kane, Infantino and Toth you can cram in one book and maybe some Kubert's Firehair, the occasionnal Frazetta and Heath)

2) GREATEST MYSTERY STORIES EVER TOLD (with the best of the Orlando era of H.O.S. and H.O.M. from Wrightson, Adams, Toth, Kane Wood, etc.)

3) GREATEST STRANGE STORIES EVER TOLD (with the best of Julius Schwartz era of sci-fi by Kane, Infantino, etc.)

4) GREATEST WAR STORIES EVER TOLD (with a BIG bunch of stuff from the great Russ Heath, and some Kubert too, of course!)

5) GREATEST FUN STORIES EVER TOLD (not sure about the title, but it would cover the more humour oriented stuff in the DC vaults such as SCRIBBLY, SUGAR AND SPIKE, best of PLOP, the funny animal stuff, etc.)


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Gorilla covers are cool!
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posted February 02, 2003 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gorilla covers are cool!   Click Here to Email Gorilla covers are cool!        Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it would be a nice change of pace to get even one of these books, wouldn't it BigBear?

It looks like the only thing that fans and retailers want to buy these days are superheroes!

In 1999, DC did publish a kind of GREATEST SCIENCE FICTION STORIES EVER TOLD. It was called PULP FICTION LIBRARY: MYSTERY IN SPACE. A great book with a nice selection of stories that covered every major theme, every era. A really good job.

The sales must have been really terrible, because, sadly, DC never follow up with a second volume in the PULP FICTION LIBRARY. Still, I'm curious to know if other volumes where planned in the series...

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posted February 02, 2003 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven Utley        Reply w/Quote
Welcome to the DC message boards, Gorilla. I love anthologies and hate the fact that they can't seem to gain a toehold. My Extensive Wish-List (which is so extensive that it rates capital letters) includes several volumes very like those you describe. You are a primate after my own heart.

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Steven Utley
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posted February 02, 2003 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven Utley        Reply w/Quote
P.S. Old Dude is going to pop up any moment now to say Pooh! and Bah! to our hopes for a collection of ape escapades. Presumably, his life has been blighted by his not having loved KING KONG and MIGHTY JOE YOUNG since about the age of seven (he is my age, less a month), and not having read all of the Tarzan books (including even the thoroughly wretched one Joe R. Lansdale wrote "with" Edgar Rice Burroughs), and (almost certainly) not having been married to someone (such as, for instance, my favorite ex-wife) who for a time pursued a career in primtatology and came this close to getting to work with Jane Goddall.

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posted March 28, 2003 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NecessaryImpurity        Reply w/Quote
To keep this thread BUMPing along...

I've proposed this in other threads, but for some reason, I haven't done it here: I'd like to see a collection of genre-specific "Greatest Story" collections. Ideally, these collections would contain ZERO pages of continuing, recognizable characters. For example, a "Greatest War Stories Ever Told" volume would contain a selection of one-off stories from DC war library, and not a panel of Sgt. Rock or the Unknown Soldier.

If that isn't commercial enough, then I'd like to limit the well-known characters to about 1/3 of the content. Select one outstanding Rock story, a single outstanding Haunted Tank story, etc. But leave the rest of the pages for those unknown gems that are unlikely to ever be reprinted in an Archive-like (complete, consecutive reprintings) format. Same goes for westerns, science fiction, romance, humor, mystery/horror, and any other category that has slipped my mind.

Ideally, we'd get a 3-5 volume library for each genre. I'd be very satisfied with such an approach, since I view Archives for non-series material to be the longest of long shots. Marty will have a complete "Red Bee Archives" library before there's anything close to an "All-American Western Archives"

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James Friel
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posted March 28, 2003 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NecessaryImpurity:
...I'd like to see a collection of genre-specific "Greatest Story" collections. Ideally, these collections would contain ZERO pages of continuing, recognizable characters....
If that isn't commercial enough, then I'd like to limit the well-known characters to about 1/3 of the content. Select one outstanding Rock story, a single outstanding Haunted Tank story, etc. But leave the rest of the pages for those unknown gems that are unlikely to ever be reprinted in an Archive-like...format. Same goes for westerns, science fiction, romance, humor, mystery/horror, and any other category that has slipped my mind.

Ideally, we'd get a 3-5 volume library for each genre. I'd be very satisfied with such an approach, since I view Archives for non-series material to be the longest of long shots. Marty will have a complete "Red Bee Archives" library before there's anything close to an "All-American Western Archives"


Actually, All-American Western (and All-Star Western and Western Comics) were filled mostly (and toward the end, I believe entirely) with series material. Johnny Thunder, Trigger Twins, Nighthawk, Wyoming Kid, Matt Savage, Pow Wow Smith, Super Chief, Strong Bow, and several others appeared in those three titles. Vigilante even headlined the first four issues of Western Comics.
So archiving those titles as anthologies rather than splitting them up would be more akin to archiving early Brave & Bold than it would be to doing either the early or the later (Orlando) House of Mystery, for instance, or Young Romance--both of which in any case strike me as not at all unlikely as archival subjects sooner or later.
It's the two Schwartz science fiction anthologies, Strange Adventures and Mystery in Space, that are neither fish nor fowl: some series material, appearing sporadically or for a short time (except for Adam Strange and to an extent Captain Comet) embedded in a matrix of unrelated non-series material that is of just as high quality.

Having said that, I like the idea anyway. I don't see any problem with having a series of thematically-organized collections out there and still hoping for more complete archival collections eventually.

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posted March 29, 2003 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Old Dude   Click Here to Email Old Dude        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Utley:
P.S. Old Dude is going to pop up any moment now to say Pooh! and Bah! to our hopes for a collection of ape escapades. Presumably, his life has been blighted by his not having loved KING KONG and MIGHTY JOE YOUNG since about the age of seven (he is my age, less a month), and not having read all of the Tarzan books (including even the thoroughly wretched one Joe R. Lansdale wrote "with" Edgar Rice Burroughs), and (almost certainly) not having been married to someone (such as, for instance, my favorite ex-wife) who for a time pursued a career in primtatology and came this close to getting to work with Jane Goddall.

Sorry, Steve. I didn't see your post until now.

No, I've never red a single Tarzan novel. Nor is my ex-wife a gorilla... or whatever.

However, I've seen King Kong more times than I can count. After Citizen Kane, it was the first video I purchased after getting a VCR (as these things always go, now that I can see it any time I wish, I rarely watch it).

As a child, I first saw Mighty Joe Young at the theater. It must have been a reissue, or else I can remember stuff that happened when i was 1! Anyway, I cried and cried when Joe fell with that burning tree while saving that orphan.

For almost a decade, a local TV station had a gorilla marathon every Thanksgiving Day. Yeah, Thanksgiving. Go figure. They ran King Kong, Son of Kong, and Mighty Joe Young every darn year, and I NEVER missed them.

And don't get me started on Planet of the Apes!!

Furthermore, one of my oldest possessions ia a plastic model gorilla I put together back in the '50s.

And when I was in art school, one of my 3-D projects was a sculpture consisting of four gorilla faces. I was...different. I turned it into a candle holder and still have it.

I just like razzin' ya, pal. If it wasn't gorillas, it would be dinosaurs.

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