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Kamandi Last Boy on Earth
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posted April 16, 2003 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kamandi Last Boy on Earth        Reply w/Quote
How many appearances did Kamandi make outside of his own title?

OCD's Map lists the Weird War backups, CCC and Karate Kid.

I know he also appeared in B&B.

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Kamandi Last Boy on Earth
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posted April 16, 2003 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kamandi Last Boy on Earth        Reply w/Quote
I've answered my own question:

Brave and the Bold (first series) #120 (first story) [July 1975]
Brave and the Bold (first series) #157 [December 1979]
Crisis on Infinite Earths #2 [May 1985]
Crisis on Infinite Earths #3 [June 1985]
Crisis on Infinite Earths #4 [July 1985]
Crisis on Infinite Earths #5 [August 1985]
Crisis on Infinite Earths #12 [March 1986]
DC Comics Presents #64 [December 1983]

From the Silver Age Appearance list: http://members.tripod.com/~jrh7925/final-k.html#kama

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Coleo
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posted April 16, 2003 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coleo   Click Here to Email Coleo        Reply w/Quote
There were two B&B team-ups with Batman (or "Captain Bat"), in #120 and #157.

Kamandi also met Superman in DC Comics Presents #64.

Finally, he was featured in the first few issues of Crisis on Infinite Earths, as one of the champions hand-picked by the Monitor to confront the Crisis.

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outpost2
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posted April 16, 2003 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outpost2        Reply w/Quote
A while back, I had reviewed all of Kamandi's appearances to see if I could figure out where all the crossovers fit in. The lists under each volume show the results of the analysis. Hope this helps.


KAMANDI ARCHIVES vol. 1
Contents: Kamandi #1-10
Page count: 225 pages + intro


  • Kamandi #1-2 : New York
  • Kamandi #3-8 : Nevada
  • Kamandi #9-10 : Northern South America (Tracking Site)

KAMANDI ARCHIVES vol. 2
Contents: Kamandi #11-20
Page count: 210 pages + intro


  • Kamandi #11-15 : Florida
  • Kamandi #15 : Carolinas, Virginia
  • Kamandi #15-17 : Washington D.C.
  • Kamandi #17-18 : Ohio
  • Kamandi #19-20 : Illinois

KAMANDI ARCHIVES vol. 3
Contents: B&B #120, Kamandi #21-29, Superman #295
Page count: 231 pages + intro


  • Brave And Bold #120 : South Dakota
  • Kamandi #21 : Michigan
  • Kamandi #21-23 : Seas off shores of Quebec
  • Kamandi #24-25 : Island off shores of Quebec
  • Kamandi #26-28 : Quebec
  • Kamandi #29 : Eastern Quebec, near the start of the Land Bridge
  • Superman v1 #295 : No Kamandi appearance, explains Kamandi #29

KAMANDI ARCHIVES vol. 4
Contents: Kamandi #30-40
Page count: 215 pages + intro


  • Kamandi #30-34 : UFO active island in the center of the northern Atlantic Ocean
  • Kamandi #35 : Earth orbit
  • Kamandi #36 : Mexico
  • Kamandi #37-40 : Northern South America

KAMANDI ARCHIVES vol. 5
Contents: Kamandi #41-42, #43-46 (lead stories only), #47-54
Page count: 230 pages + intro


  • Kamandi #41-42 : California
  • Kamandi #43 : Tennessee
  • Kamandi #44 : Florida
  • Kamandi #44-47 : Bermuda
  • Kamandi #48 : Florida
  • Kamandi #49 : Airspace over Atlantic Ocean
  • Kamandi #50 : North-west Africa
  • Kamandi #51 : Atlantic Ocean
  • Kamandi #51-54 : Northern South America

KAMANDI ARCHIVES vol. 6
Contents: Kamandi #55-57, Karate Kid #15, Kamandi #58-60, B&B #157, Kamandi #61, DC Comics Presents #64, Kamandi #43-46 (back-up tales only), Weird War Tales #51-52
Page count: 229 pages + intro


  • Kamandi #55-56 : Northern South America
  • Kamandi #56-57 : Northern South America (Tracking Site)
  • Kamandi #57 : Isle of the God-Watchers (South America land fragment)
  • Karate Kid #15 : Isle of the God-Watchers (South America land fragment)
  • Kamandi #58 : Isle of the God-Watchers (South America land fragment)
  • Kamandi #58-59 : Australia
  • Kamandi #60 (CCC #2) : Australia
  • Kamandi #60 (CCC #2) : The timestream
  • Brave And Bold #157 : The timestream and the 20th century
  • Kamandi #61 (CCC #2) : The timestream
  • Kamandi #61 (CCC #2) : Australia
  • DC Comics Presents #64 : The 20th century
  • Kamandi #43-46 : Tales of the Great Disaster
  • Weird War Tales #51-52 : Tales of the Great Disaster

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Kamandi Last Boy on Earth
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posted April 16, 2003 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kamandi Last Boy on Earth        Reply w/Quote
Good work outpost!

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arromdee
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posted April 16, 2003 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arromdee        Reply w/Quote
Good call on Superman #295. I had completeyl forgotten about that until it was mentioned here, but it really is pretty essential to a Kamandi series.

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outpost2
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posted April 16, 2003 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outpost2        Reply w/Quote
When you see it broken down like this, the problems of multi-part stories from the 70s and 80s become apparent. Take Kamandi #30-34 as an example. If you don't include the crossovers, you have the undesireable side-effect of spreading a five-part story over two volumes. I think we're going to see this more and more when they start reprinting Bronze Age material.

Besides, whether you include the crossovers or not, it'll still end up taking six volumes to complete, so why not get the extra material for the same price?

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NecessaryImpurity
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posted April 16, 2003 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NecessaryImpurity        Reply w/Quote
With the introduction of the slim Archive for the Challengers, I suppose we could also introduce a jumbo Archive, to better give the compiler the flexibility to fit story arcs in one volume. You might see something like Regular, Regular, Slim, Jumbo, Regular, Jumbo, Slim. Whether DC wants to (or, given the market, can) charge extra for the Jumbo is another matter. The "Batman Archives, V1" is probably about the size of a Jumbo, at around 300 pages. Notice that it isn't going for a premium.

It ain't easy being a compiler, is it Mr. G.?

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profh0011
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posted April 17, 2003 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for profh0011   Click Here to Email profh0011        Reply w/Quote
"Kamandi #29 : Eastern Quebec, near the start of the Land Bridge
Kamandi #30-34 : UFO active island in the center of the northern Atlantic Ocean"

Is there a land bridge connecting North America with Europe? (It's sad, but I've never read ANY of these.) If so, it's neat how "consistent" Kirby was, as this would explain how THUNDARR, OOKLA & ARIEL were able to travel to England on horseback...

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outpost2
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posted April 17, 2003 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outpost2        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by profh0011:
Is there a land bridge connecting North America with Europe?

Yup. And according to the world maps given, it's huge. It was built by Superman. I don't remember off-hand why he built it, but it was during the planetary upheavel of the Great Disaster. IIRC, he disappeared while performing this mighty task.

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GreatBear
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posted April 17, 2003 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GreatBear   Click Here to Email GreatBear        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by profh0011:
[BIs there a land bridge connecting North America with Europe? (It's sad, but I've never read ANY of these.) If so, it's neat how "consistent" Kirby was, as this would explain how THUNDARR, OOKLA & ARIEL were able to travel to England on horseback...
[/B]

I had never thought of it, but Kirby was the concept artist for Thundarr, wasn't he? Much of what I can remember of Thundarr fits well with the Great Diaster. Too bad it's not on DVD so I actually see it again.

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Mike Falcon
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posted April 17, 2003 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Falcon   Click Here to Email Mike Falcon        Reply w/Quote
I belive Alex Toth did the three main charecter designs for Thundarr. Kirby did most everything else. Check out Mark Evanier's POV site for the information.

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Mike Falcon
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posted April 17, 2003 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Falcon   Click Here to Email Mike Falcon        Reply w/Quote
This is from the site I mentioned above:

One thing it did not have was good animation. Alex Toth designed the three central characters, and Jack Kirby designed everything else. So you had a lot of terrific art that was then processed by the cheapest-possible animation house. When I see the shows now, I can't believe they put some of that stuff on the air, but they did. At the time, the "bar" for acceptable animation on TV was a lot lower than it is now.

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profh0011
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posted April 17, 2003 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for profh0011   Click Here to Email profh0011        Reply w/Quote
I made a joke some weeks back that KAMANDI grew up to become THUNDARR. It's not such a wild idea...

Cartoon Network began rerunning the shows on late Saturday night @ 3:30 AM (right after JONNY QUEST) and unlike every other show I've seen them running, incredibly, they've been running it in the original network order! My videotapes from 1980 have been a bit fuzzy, so since I've been up that late anyway I've been watching the show again. They're running it uncut with only one commercial break in the middle-- and they're even running the end credits complete without voice-overs. When the show aired on the network originally, strangely they DIDN'T include the end credits! They go by real fast, but it's amazing how many names I recognize as having been a part of the show, including Marty Pasko, Mark Evanier, Doug Wildey. Of course, Jack did the storyboards (designing virtually everything apart from the 3 leads), and I know from an old interview that Steve Gerber was the show's story editor! Coming right at the tail-end of a decade of horrible censorship on Saturday mornings, the show was a breath of fresh air-- imaginitive, fun and EXCITING, as the writers continually found ways around the idiotic restrictions of the times.

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profh0011
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posted April 17, 2003 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for profh0011   Click Here to Email profh0011        Reply w/Quote
"One thing it did not have was good animation. Alex Toth designed the three central characters, and Jack Kirby designed everything else. So you had a lot of terrific art that was then processed by the cheapest-possible animation house. When I see the shows now, I can't believe they put some of that stuff on the air, but they did. At the time, the "bar" for acceptable animation on TV was a lot lower than it is now."

At the time, it was the BEST DAMN THING on the air. It suffers in comparison to JONNY QUEST (everything does) as well as SPACE GHOST and HERCULOIDS (the animation, anyway) and many later shows-- but when it was on, it totally blew away EVERYTHING that had come out in the 1970's by a mile.

I think it's a tragedy they only made 21 episodes...

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