posted April 09, 2003 11:59 AM            

If done properly, it can be a "done-in-one" edition, and I know that I would gladly pay extra to get this made!

What say all of you out there?

posted April 10, 2003 08:05 PM               

Jim

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"...this child has become the parent." The Red Tornado

posted April 10, 2003 10:17 PM               

quote:

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Is the entire run of Ma Hunkel as Red Tornado the serial reprinted in The Smithsonian Book of Comic Book Comics? That book just photographs old comic book pages, so you get yellowed/browned newsprint with faded colors, but you have the story.

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Not even close, though it does reprint her first story arc.

Put me down for this. This is something I would buy multiple copies of--just to get it into the school and town libraries.

posted April 11, 2003 03:12 PM               

I might argue that Red Bee point, though ;-}

Jim

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"...this child has become the parent." The Red Tornado

posted April 14, 2003 01:50 PM               

He isn't simply saying that only 131 people would purchase a RT archive, he's also saying that 25% of respondents would purchase the archive. That means that if the 525 respondents represented a total population (and here this makes the assumption that the survey was a random sample, which it isn't by any means, so this is not a statistically reliable projectsion) of something like 5000 potential archive purchasers, then we might expect sales of around 1,250. That caveat was not meant as any slight at towards the survey or all of the incredibly hardwork that was done on it, it was merely an acknowledgement of the way the survey was done.

Looking at previous archive surveys, specifically the 2002 survey, we see that GA GL had a buy had a 28% response rate, and that book was produced. Superman Archives had an 18% response rate and it will be out soon. Shazam #3 had a 35% response, and it is out. The Superman can be discounted as a lower bound I suspect because duh, he's Superman. People will buy it and there was probably a little gaming of the survey involved in the responses; people who thought an archive was a sure thing may have voted for a second tier title to get the numbers up. Spectre, which we just saw, had 128 votes and 39% response rate.

What these numbers might be able to tell us is that given the ability of the archives survey to accurately pick archives that are eventually released, a 25% response rate is not inherently too low to produce a book.

posted April 16, 2003 05:28 PM            

SCRIBBLY AND THE RED TORNADO:

• All-American Comics #1-19 (Scribbly only), #20-59 (Scribbly & Red Tornado)
  
• All Star Comics #3 (in JSA tale, Red Tornado only)
  
• The Big All-American Comic Book #1 (Scribbly only)
  
• Buzzy #32-34,39 (all between Scribbly #13 and #14, Scribbly only)
  
• Comic Cavalcade #1 (reprint, do not duplicate), #4,7 (w/Red Tornado)
  
• Leave It To Binky #15 (Scribbly only)
  
• Scribbly #1-15 (Scribbly only)
  
• Secret Origins v3 #29 (w/Red Tornado)
  
• Sugar & Spike #30 (grown-up Scribbly, in Sugar & Spike tale)
  
• *The Funnies [Dell Publ] #2 (Nov 1936, Overstreet incorrectly says this is 1st app.), #3-??
  
• *Popular Comics [Dell Publ] #6 (July 1936, 1st app. Scribbly anywhere), #7-9, more?
  

posted April 19, 2003 05:32 PM               

Volume 1 (217 Pages): All-American Comics 20-59; The Big All-American Comic Book; Comic Cavalcade 4, 7

(*I've included all covers, but if you remove them, you can fit in a few issues prior to the start of the Red Tornado and we can see Dinky and Sisty's kidnapping. I'm not sure which issue that is though.)

I've tried to do Scribbly solo, but the Dell information is hard to come by. All indications point to it running in the Funnies up to the start of All-American. If so, that's 33 Dell stories. They're also 4 pages each, but feature some covers. Let's just estimate 5 (though it could be less, it could be more). If it was less, as I suspect, they could always include the first few All-American Covers since they did have head-shots of Scribbly. Anyway, altogether, the Dell and pre-Red Tomato All-American material would make one Archive. I'd imagine the rest from the solo Scribbly series (and his guest appearances) could be two Challenger-sized, lower priced volumes. The challenge for DC is getting the Dell and early All-American material. Both are pretty rare.

-Steve

posted April 23, 2003 11:59 AM               

Jim

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"...this child has become the parent." The Red Tornado

posted April 23, 2003 01:07 PM               

OK - it's just one panel on page 84, but there she is, conjured up by Dr. Fate in all her glory, and affectionately remembered by Starman as "all brawn and no brain"!