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JSA vs INFINITY Member	posted March 19, 2003 06:25 PM It's Doctor Fate folks. IP: Logged
Bgztl Member	posted March 19, 2003 06:42 PM This is a real toughie for me. I agree that it doesn't sound like Hawkman-- because they've had the originals for while in order to do the G.A. Flash Archives. Sandman is still a good guess, I think because he does have broad appeal and those early issues of Adventure Comics and the two New York World's Fair Comics are hard to come by. (We know they recently cadged a copy of the New York World's Fair Comics and the early World's Finest issues because of the Batman in WF volume). But Superboy sure seems to fit. The later issues of More Fun Comics are rarer than hen's teeth. Ditto for the late 1940's Adventure Comics. Other possibilities?? Uncle Sam? Broad appeal because of the current crisis and rare. Problem? hard to reproduce. Dr. Fate? Not really "broad" appeal but popular enough. They also just got the Spectre issues done so maybe that's what they mean. Captain Marvel, Jr.? Not really "broad" appeal but early issues are still hard to come by. And Captain Marvel is making a mini-comeback right now. Big All-American & All-Star Comics? Oo. I may faint. They are QUITE elusive. I've been saving shekels and looking around for originals for years. (Flashback's 1970's B & W reprint series provided me with a readable copy of All-star Comics # 1 & 2) I'd love to see it, but I doubt this is it. All told -- Sandman and Superboy look like odds on favorites for this based on the comment that they are "elusive". I marginally favor Superboy. But I would be excited by Sandman like you wouldn't believe! I think the early Sandman stories are undiscovered little pulp gems. IP: Logged
friend Member	posted March 19, 2003 06:51 PM ...and also, a Superman movie is in the works, well, it's been for quite a while but I heard that there was actually some pre-production, that some things were slowly moving for real... Evidently, Superman would be hot for the masses all over again if a new flick was to see the day... So, again, I add my vote to Superboy... Friend. ------------------ http://www.freewebs.com/salamie63/index.htm IP: Logged
silveragesuperfan Member	posted March 19, 2003 06:54 PM My guess is Superboy. I wish it was Sandman. If it IS Strange Adventures, there would be no more proof than that that there is a God in heaven! It COULD be Seven Soldiers... IP: Logged
DaBubba Member	posted March 19, 2003 07:03 PM I'm going to throw my hat in the Superboy ring. That "worked on for a while" tease points to him. IP: Logged
GSchienke Member	posted March 19, 2003 07:55 PM Not a damned chance in hell, but a Spy Smasher would be great. Greg IP: Logged
GSchienke Member	posted March 19, 2003 07:56 PM For got to add, that Superboy does make sense, especially since I , selfishly, would rather have that than Sandman. Greg IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted March 19, 2003 09:17 PM If you take the broad appeal comment seriously, I think the front runners are Superboy and Hawkman. Sandman, followed by Dr. Fate, are probably next in line. Don't count out Hawkman on the assumption that they have the source material. It's possible that they have damaged copies of Flash Comics. Not likely, but possible. If you ignore the broad appeal comment, or lower the threshold for what counts as broad appeal, I'd go with Comic Cavalcade. If you take the working for a long time comment seriously, I think Superboy, Sandman, and maybe Hawkman are the front runners. I'm going with Superboy. IP: Logged
whoswhoz Member	posted March 19, 2003 09:25 PM quote: Originally posted by friend: 3-I'm afraid Superboy will be fighting only gangsters. Friend. The early Superboy stories mostly consist of Superboy helping his classmates with school related problems, or rescuing people, etc. No crime, no gangsters, no supervillains. Almost no grownups. IP: Logged
whoswhoz Member	posted March 19, 2003 09:27 PM quote: Originally posted by James Friel: I expressed that hope at one point, but I don't think anyone has really put it forward as a probability. Superboy seems most likely to me. Broad appeal exists in the non-fan market for anything Superman-or-Batman-related, and I'd imagine that's what DC usually means when they use that term. Early Comic Cavalcade issues aren't exactly plentiful, and the series collects the entire issues rather than breaking it down by character, that could constitute "broad appeal". The same could apply to our postulated Golden Age Archive, collecting All-Star #1-2 and the Big All-American Comic Book: scarce material and broad (in this case VERY broad fan appeal. Captain Marvel Jr. would have fairly broad support, but I question the rarity of the material, and there's the restoration problem. Sandman is pretty well unknown outside of fan circles, but I agree that he'd fit the other criteria, and the appeal within fandom is certainly there. The same would apply to Fine (Doll Man is certainly rare), and to Simon & Kirby, but I don't think Newsboy Legion stories are all that hard to come by, especially since the first half dozen or so were already reprinted in the '70s. Comic Cavalcade, like All-American has the problem that DC doesn't have the rights to all the strips that appeared within. Of course, they could leave the Mutt and Jeff, etc. pages out, but then everyone will complain that it's not "complete". IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted March 19, 2003 09:47 PM quote: Originally posted by vze2: ...If you ignore the broad appeal comment, or lower the threshold for what counts as broad appeal, I'd go with Comic Cavalcade.... I'm going with Superboy too, but I disagree that Comic Cavalcade would (in DC's view) constitute lowering the standard of what constitutes broad appeal from Hawkman. Flash, Green Lantern AND Wonder Woman--very broad indeed. Even broader if it's the All-Star/BAACB compilation. IP: Logged
GSchienke Member	posted March 19, 2003 10:12 PM Hey, a thought just popped out of the blue. How possible is it that it is Robin? Greg IP: Logged
TheRogueLegionnaire Member	posted March 19, 2003 10:36 PM I'd love for it to be Robin, but Bob said this serious wasn't a priority. IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted March 19, 2003 10:39 PM quote: Originally posted by James Friel: I'm going with Superboy too, but I disagree that Comic Cavalcade would (in DC's view) constitute lowering the standard of what constitutes broad appeal from Hawkman. Flash, Green Lantern AND Wonder Woman--very broad indeed. Even broader if it's the All-Star/BAACB compilation. I certainly would have agreed with you a couple of years ago. I based my comment on what apparently low-selling Flash, and the apparently less than spectacular sales of GL and WW. However, I hope I'm wrong. IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted March 19, 2003 10:44 PM quote: Originally posted by GSchienke: Hey, a thought just popped out of the blue. How possible is it that it is Robin? Greg If you take the comments at face value, I'd have to say Robin is not possible. I think Bob G. said that Robin hasn't been considered, which would mean they haven't been working on it for a while and therefore haven't had trouble finding issues. However, I think that this is a very logical choice for anyone who doesn't remember Bob's comment, and I'm suprised it hasn't been mentioned before. IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted March 20, 2003 02:50 AM quote: Originally posted by vze2: I certainly would have agreed with you a couple of years ago. I based my comment on what apparently low-selling Flash, and the apparently less than spectacular sales of GL and WW. However, I hope I'm wrong. What I meant, though, was that maybe they're talking about breadth of material. Since the three different series have highly overlapping but not identical audiences, the theory could be that appeal will be additive. IP: Logged
Owen Cardiff Darcy Member	posted March 20, 2003 05:29 AM quote: Originally posted by srca1941: Maybe if it is Superboy, and Supergirl was scheduled, they bumped her into next year to make room for him. -Steve Just because work has resumed on this mystery volume, that doesn't necessarily mean it will be ready for publication by the end of this year. We may still see Supergirl Vol. 2 later this year and Superboy in 2004. IP: Logged
Owen Cardiff Darcy Member	posted March 20, 2003 05:40 AM quote: Originally posted by Bgztl: Sandman is still a good guess, I think because he does have broad appeal and those early issues of Adventure Comics and the two New York World's Fair Comics are hard to come by. (We know they recently cadged a copy of the New York World's Fair Comics and the early World's Finest issues because of the Batman in WF volume). They only needed the 1940 New York World's Fair for Batman in WF. For Sandman (or Superman in WF) they'd also need the 1939 New York World's Fair, which did not have a Batman story. IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted March 20, 2003 07:47 PM quote: Originally posted by James Friel: What I meant, though, was that maybe they're talking about breadth of material. Since the three different series have highly overlapping but not identical audiences, the theory could be that appeal will be additive. Obviously, I hadn't thought of it that way, but I agree with you. IP: Logged
Kamandi Last Boy on Earth Member	posted March 21, 2003 01:16 AM The "broad appeal" remark leads me to believe its Superboy. Obviously, Superboy is a better know character to the public at large than Sandman or Hawkman. And, I think this is the clincher, it could be marketed to fans of Smallville Personally, I won't be buying it, though I would definitely go for Hawkman, or maybe Sandman. IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted March 28, 2003 04:01 AM So are we all assuming that it's Superboy? Will we ALL be proven wrong when they announce that it's something we hadn't taken into account at all? IP: Logged
Lee Semmens Member	posted March 28, 2003 05:14 AM I'd be very surprised if it isn't Superboy, given that Superboy is seemingly the only Golden Age archive they have been holding back on for some time, whether for one reason or another, plus none of the other mooted archives would have quite the "broad appeal" of Superboy, particularly when you consider the popularity of "Smallville". Also, as far as I am aware, Bob Greenberger has not hinted at any other GA number ones being in the immediate offing. IP: Logged
DStepp Member	posted March 28, 2003 10:53 AM Actually, he specifically told us that was off the table for the time being. But I think things have changed..... D. IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted March 31, 2003 03:45 AM If it's not Superboy, then what's the next most likely? Given that we now know it's Atom 2 (and thus, presumably, probably not Hawkman 2), is GA Hawkman back in the running? Is either the volume we refer to as Golden Age Archives or Comic Cavalcade a reasonable possibility? Those three still strike me as (next to Superboy) most likely. IP: Logged
vze2 Member	posted March 31, 2003 08:12 AM I agree. I'm officially changing my vote to Sandman. I think we've been focusing too much on the "long time" and "broad appeal" comments. While there could be a source material issue that stopped Superboy either by itself or in combination with a legal issue, the way Bob asked us not to ask him about Superboy leads me to believe that source material is not the problem. Source material problems are most likely to occur for the oldest characters, like Sandman. I'm suprised that it took DC so long to start Batman in World's Finest since it has the first Scarecrow story. Perhaps a source material problem (World's Fair) prevented both this volume and Sandman. I'm also suprised this volume didn't come out when Sandman Mystery Theatre was being published. Here's a wild card that I don't think has been mentioned here: Newsboy Legion. IP: Logged

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